"eCW is the market leader in ambulatory market, now they are heading into the inpatient market, where they will also be a leader. Plain and simple."
Well that's simply delusional. We're dropping ambulatory eCW for Athena. Like I said, abysmal support and a complete inability to solve issues.
Do the Needful - 8 years ago
eCW and Athena will have a tough time convincing the established Healthcare systems to take a chance on their inpatient solutions. They may pick off a few here and there but no major sales will go with either until they provide something better than the top 4-5 Vendors do now. They need something to set them apart start the buzz, disrupt the current vision in inpatient with new innovations, faster seamless interoperability, sleek functional Mobile platforms that actually provide functions to providers , easy to build order sets, quick seamless connectivity with all the other companies that an inpatient EHR's needs to connect with. AND the analytics to report on outcomes, negotiate better with payors, while providing a top revenue cycle, pharmacy, Lab, imaging, patient management etc. Since they can't provide all that they better start partnering quickly. And stuffing the survey with a bunch of support people and Executives responding is just plain tacky. And ECW still needs to learn the Healthcare culture in the US . It's not that easy to move from Ambulatory to inpatient.
Anonymous - 8 years ago
eCW is the market leader in ambulatory market, now they are heading into the inpatient market, where they will also be a leader. Plain and simple.
Lemmy - 8 years ago
Having dealt with eCW support, there is no way they will make any impact on the inpatient market. Their bizarre issue triaging hierarchy makes it impossible to get anything done in a reasonable amount of time.
It's All Good! - 8 years ago
There's a long history of failed attempts by HIT companies that aspire to be what they're not. Allscripts has been trying to be an inpatient player since the Eclipsys acquisition. They have failed, and it is a case study for why eCW and athenaHealth will also fail. Inpatient is MUCH different than ambulatory. Ambulatory vendors try to apply ambulatory EHR principals to inpatient workflows. Doesn't work. Plus, Epic and Cerner and Meditech have an enormous head start. Why not just excel in what you know? No shame in being the king(s) of the ambulatory market. Not every single practice is going to be owned by an IDN. In fact, it's getting to the be that time in the cycle for IDNs to start divesting all those practices they bought and can't figure out how to profitably run.
Good luck. As an investor in a long standing, active Enterprise EMR company, we know what it takes to be in the inpatient setting - much more complex than in the ambulatory setting. I think you only need to look at the Athena acquisition of Razor in January 2015 and ask yourself why a large ambulatory vendor couldn't take an inpatient system and do something significant with it. A really expensive decision to shelve the product in less than 12 months!
Not likely at all. Over 40 yrs in HIT I have seen this movie at least 10 times. There are only about 2.500 hospital/Aco prospects, and most use Cern/Siemens or Epic. Doing small hospitals than moving up has only been accomplished by one vendor - Meditech and they are losing ground.
Too bad for ATH & Eclin, this train left the station along time ago.
vote-early-and-often - 8 years ago
This poll is obviously hopelessly biased due to ballot stuffing by eCW employees. We're already seeing that eCW does well with small providers, but they stumble miserably with enterprise customers, who demand project discipline and management maturity. eCW will have a tough go in the hospital market unless they seriously shake up their management structure and delivery/support model.
Skeptical - 8 years ago
ECW is already spamming this poll...predictable. If their entry into inpatient is like their interoperability solutions, we should expect major league hype and minor league results.
Martin Feeney - 8 years ago
eClinicalworks entering the inpatient market should make the legacy systems very nervous
Michael Calderone - 8 years ago
eClinicalWorks will enter the inpatient market and become an innovative leader just as they are in the outpatient setting.
Nitin Vyas - 8 years ago
eClinicalWorks will enter Inpatient market and will soon be the leader as we always did in all other domains.
Rupa - 8 years ago
eClinicalWorks is the best!
Rajesh - 8 years ago
eCW all the way.
Minesh Gadhia - 8 years ago
eClinicalWorks all the way!!!
Vaidehi Sheth - 8 years ago
Can't wait for eClinicalworks Leap jump in Inpatient System !!
"eCW is the market leader in ambulatory market, now they are heading into the inpatient market, where they will also be a leader. Plain and simple."
Well that's simply delusional. We're dropping ambulatory eCW for Athena. Like I said, abysmal support and a complete inability to solve issues.
eCW and Athena will have a tough time convincing the established Healthcare systems to take a chance on their inpatient solutions. They may pick off a few here and there but no major sales will go with either until they provide something better than the top 4-5 Vendors do now. They need something to set them apart start the buzz, disrupt the current vision in inpatient with new innovations, faster seamless interoperability, sleek functional Mobile platforms that actually provide functions to providers , easy to build order sets, quick seamless connectivity with all the other companies that an inpatient EHR's needs to connect with. AND the analytics to report on outcomes, negotiate better with payors, while providing a top revenue cycle, pharmacy, Lab, imaging, patient management etc. Since they can't provide all that they better start partnering quickly. And stuffing the survey with a bunch of support people and Executives responding is just plain tacky. And ECW still needs to learn the Healthcare culture in the US . It's not that easy to move from Ambulatory to inpatient.
eCW is the market leader in ambulatory market, now they are heading into the inpatient market, where they will also be a leader. Plain and simple.
Having dealt with eCW support, there is no way they will make any impact on the inpatient market. Their bizarre issue triaging hierarchy makes it impossible to get anything done in a reasonable amount of time.
There's a long history of failed attempts by HIT companies that aspire to be what they're not. Allscripts has been trying to be an inpatient player since the Eclipsys acquisition. They have failed, and it is a case study for why eCW and athenaHealth will also fail. Inpatient is MUCH different than ambulatory. Ambulatory vendors try to apply ambulatory EHR principals to inpatient workflows. Doesn't work. Plus, Epic and Cerner and Meditech have an enormous head start. Why not just excel in what you know? No shame in being the king(s) of the ambulatory market. Not every single practice is going to be owned by an IDN. In fact, it's getting to the be that time in the cycle for IDNs to start divesting all those practices they bought and can't figure out how to profitably run.
Good luck. As an investor in a long standing, active Enterprise EMR company, we know what it takes to be in the inpatient setting - much more complex than in the ambulatory setting. I think you only need to look at the Athena acquisition of Razor in January 2015 and ask yourself why a large ambulatory vendor couldn't take an inpatient system and do something significant with it. A really expensive decision to shelve the product in less than 12 months!
Not likely at all. Over 40 yrs in HIT I have seen this movie at least 10 times. There are only about 2.500 hospital/Aco prospects, and most use Cern/Siemens or Epic. Doing small hospitals than moving up has only been accomplished by one vendor - Meditech and they are losing ground.
Too bad for ATH & Eclin, this train left the station along time ago.
This poll is obviously hopelessly biased due to ballot stuffing by eCW employees. We're already seeing that eCW does well with small providers, but they stumble miserably with enterprise customers, who demand project discipline and management maturity. eCW will have a tough go in the hospital market unless they seriously shake up their management structure and delivery/support model.
ECW is already spamming this poll...predictable. If their entry into inpatient is like their interoperability solutions, we should expect major league hype and minor league results.
eClinicalworks entering the inpatient market should make the legacy systems very nervous
eClinicalWorks will enter the inpatient market and become an innovative leader just as they are in the outpatient setting.
eClinicalWorks will enter Inpatient market and will soon be the leader as we always did in all other domains.
eClinicalWorks is the best!
eCW all the way.
eClinicalWorks all the way!!!
Can't wait for eClinicalworks Leap jump in Inpatient System !!
eClinicalWorks for sure
Definitely eClinicalworks