if they make the bezel smaller on the macs they will then make an external camera for the mac or you could just buy a third party camera for the mac. it would also give the people who are paranoid about someone supposedly watching them through their desktop camera a chance not to have one
Ben - 6 years ago
My paid and volunteer work and my family communication involve more and more video calls, meetings and webinars using FaceTime and Zoom. Almost all of them happen on my desktop iMac. They save vast amounts of time, money and travel. The idea of trading that off for awkward use of mobile devices, or having to add a clunky extra device at extra cost because of an obsession with bezel width is completely absurd. Why would anyone, at Apple or among buyers, give a hoot about the amount of bezel width needed for a camera? Meanwhile, I want a frame defining the edge of my screen.
Bhou - 6 years ago
But what if Apple is planning to add Face ID in their Mac lineup?
Hi, I just wanted to say that if you are spending this much on a computer if this degree, then get a USB camera. They are actually really good and cheap, too. Logitech makes 1080p cameras. Goodbye, and have a great day!
I mean we already lost every other important access ports like the USB and SD slots so why not?
BigHowdy - 6 years ago
I don’t care about thin bezels, but I think a camera that folds up from the back to peek over the top would actually be an improvement. That way, you could put it away when it isn’t being used which would be a great security feature. And people who never use the camera don’t have to look at it.
I want both! Ultra slim bezels and a notch for the camera! /s
-hh - 6 years ago
On balance .. no.
I was tempted to say "Yes" because my employer won't buy PCs with integrated webcams because of Security concerns, so a "camera delete" would be a good thing ...
... but they also won't buy anything other than Windows, so it becomes a moot point.
Similarly, I was tempted to say "Yes" because its not really a feature I use much on my Macs, and this in theory could allow Apple to reduce the price of an iMac ...
...but then I remembered that Apple basically never lowers prices, so this too becomes a moot point.
Howard Davidson - 6 years ago
Samsung have managed it in a 75 inch TV with a extremely thin bezel. They made a tiny pop up camera on the top edg of the screen. Apple are making more savings by doing away with something that is extremely useful to its customers by pre warning them.And making out its a necessity for a long overdue design change.
Nikolas - 6 years ago
Windows PC's never have webcams built in, and they work just fine. Adding an external camera is not difficult and often gives better results.
Alekdome - 6 years ago
How are 40% of readers saying yes? A webcam still has an important functionality for a computer, unlike ultra thin bezels, which have no function but to look pretty. The idea is stupid.
Michael Kirk - 6 years ago
I can't help thinking that ultra-slim bezels would mean some other unacceptable technical compromise, such as non user upgradeable RAM.
Parker Ford - 6 years ago
If the webcam was patruding just a little you could still fit it in with the ultra thin bezels. But still I don’t understand why they can’t fit it on the iMac when they canon the iPad.
Avi - 6 years ago
They should add Face ID to the iMac!!!
hmps - 6 years ago
There's absolutely no need to have slimmer bezels on an iMac than on an iPhone X / new unreleased iPad.
If they can fit Face-ID and high quality selfie camera in the slim notch on an iPhone X (and soon in the bezel of the iPad) then surely it must be possible on an iMac.
Rich Legault - 6 years ago
I don't understand why people care so much about ultra-slim bezels, or ultra-thinness on a desktop computer. If the screen is less than 4" thick, and the bezels are 1" or less, I'm happy. Functionality matters more. It's not like you have to carry the computer around with you.
Bille Palle Nielsen - 6 years ago
Just integrate a webcam as an alu-bump on the top of the iMac... It would actually look good, I think.
Kevin McGinley - 6 years ago
iMacs are popular with families and the grandparents and aunts and uncles need to be able to FaceTime with the kids.
Oscar Silva - 6 years ago
I rarely use my iMac camera although I use it on my MacBook, iPad, and iPhone. I’m fine with getting a cheap 1080P external camera and just use it if and when I need to on my iMac in trade for a thunderous bezel and larger screen in the same form factor. 30” perhaps? 29.5”?
Max - 6 years ago
The topic makes no sense. If an iPad can house a camera in an ultra-slim bezel, why shouldn't an iMac be able to do the same?
Larry Rymal - 6 years ago
Never have I understood this thinness thing. Is it styling over function? A market thing?
Sonny - 6 years ago
Even with a webcam build in bezels could be trimmed down significantly. Look for example at the MSI GS65 notebook. There are also other ways to implement the webcam, like with a pop-up mechanism like the Vivo Apex smartphone. Apple isn’t doing a very good job in this area. Even though the current MacBooks look better then before, it’s not what you should expect for a company like Apple and the price you’re paying for it. Also still missing the 17” MacBook, but that’s another story....
if they make the bezel smaller on the macs they will then make an external camera for the mac or you could just buy a third party camera for the mac. it would also give the people who are paranoid about someone supposedly watching them through their desktop camera a chance not to have one
My paid and volunteer work and my family communication involve more and more video calls, meetings and webinars using FaceTime and Zoom. Almost all of them happen on my desktop iMac. They save vast amounts of time, money and travel. The idea of trading that off for awkward use of mobile devices, or having to add a clunky extra device at extra cost because of an obsession with bezel width is completely absurd. Why would anyone, at Apple or among buyers, give a hoot about the amount of bezel width needed for a camera? Meanwhile, I want a frame defining the edge of my screen.
But what if Apple is planning to add Face ID in their Mac lineup?
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Hi, I just wanted to say that if you are spending this much on a computer if this degree, then get a USB camera. They are actually really good and cheap, too. Logitech makes 1080p cameras. Goodbye, and have a great day!
I mean we already lost every other important access ports like the USB and SD slots so why not?
I don’t care about thin bezels, but I think a camera that folds up from the back to peek over the top would actually be an improvement. That way, you could put it away when it isn’t being used which would be a great security feature. And people who never use the camera don’t have to look at it.
I want both! Ultra slim bezels and a notch for the camera! /s
On balance .. no.
I was tempted to say "Yes" because my employer won't buy PCs with integrated webcams because of Security concerns, so a "camera delete" would be a good thing ...
... but they also won't buy anything other than Windows, so it becomes a moot point.
Similarly, I was tempted to say "Yes" because its not really a feature I use much on my Macs, and this in theory could allow Apple to reduce the price of an iMac ...
...but then I remembered that Apple basically never lowers prices, so this too becomes a moot point.
Samsung have managed it in a 75 inch TV with a extremely thin bezel. They made a tiny pop up camera on the top edg of the screen. Apple are making more savings by doing away with something that is extremely useful to its customers by pre warning them.And making out its a necessity for a long overdue design change.
Windows PC's never have webcams built in, and they work just fine. Adding an external camera is not difficult and often gives better results.
How are 40% of readers saying yes? A webcam still has an important functionality for a computer, unlike ultra thin bezels, which have no function but to look pretty. The idea is stupid.
I can't help thinking that ultra-slim bezels would mean some other unacceptable technical compromise, such as non user upgradeable RAM.
If the webcam was patruding just a little you could still fit it in with the ultra thin bezels. But still I don’t understand why they can’t fit it on the iMac when they canon the iPad.
They should add Face ID to the iMac!!!
There's absolutely no need to have slimmer bezels on an iMac than on an iPhone X / new unreleased iPad.
If they can fit Face-ID and high quality selfie camera in the slim notch on an iPhone X (and soon in the bezel of the iPad) then surely it must be possible on an iMac.
I don't understand why people care so much about ultra-slim bezels, or ultra-thinness on a desktop computer. If the screen is less than 4" thick, and the bezels are 1" or less, I'm happy. Functionality matters more. It's not like you have to carry the computer around with you.
Just integrate a webcam as an alu-bump on the top of the iMac... It would actually look good, I think.
iMacs are popular with families and the grandparents and aunts and uncles need to be able to FaceTime with the kids.
I rarely use my iMac camera although I use it on my MacBook, iPad, and iPhone. I’m fine with getting a cheap 1080P external camera and just use it if and when I need to on my iMac in trade for a thunderous bezel and larger screen in the same form factor. 30” perhaps? 29.5”?
The topic makes no sense. If an iPad can house a camera in an ultra-slim bezel, why shouldn't an iMac be able to do the same?
Never have I understood this thinness thing. Is it styling over function? A market thing?
Even with a webcam build in bezels could be trimmed down significantly. Look for example at the MSI GS65 notebook. There are also other ways to implement the webcam, like with a pop-up mechanism like the Vivo Apex smartphone. Apple isn’t doing a very good job in this area. Even though the current MacBooks look better then before, it’s not what you should expect for a company like Apple and the price you’re paying for it. Also still missing the 17” MacBook, but that’s another story....