???? I Congratulate Mr. HOMA D. PETIT for the best decision to establish Shroff Medical centre of the B.D. PETIT Parsee General HospItal at Mumbai. This will surely benefits to the community members as well as serves the brotherhood communities.
Persons with negative mindset who opposes this project should know that Parsi General Hospital at Surat established in the year 1920 was also a glorious Charitable Hospital before upto 3 to 4 decades. But nowadays this Hospital is almost in a shutdown situation since 3 to 4 decades due to such people with negative mindset who had opposed in past wrongly and stopped its future plannings decided by Surat Parsi panchayat.
Hospital is running in very very poor state of treatment facilities due to non availability of proper fund and lack of enthusiasm in present Trustees appointed at Surat Parsi panchayat.
In Surat there are so many Parsi Doctors, Consulting Physicians, Surgeons doing private practices. But not a single Parsi Doctor is visiting / serving here. No resident Doctor available for treatment. Hospital running Ram Bharose on totally careless nursing staff. They don't look after old poor patients and treating them very rudely. Nurses gives Paracetamol tablet to each and every old age patients without having fever to them so they don't disturb them in their night sleep ! Even high command of SPP at Mumbai who appoints Trustees in SPP is not interested to look after problems of patients or to resolve it.
There was neither loss to the people who opposed for the future planning of this Hospital in past nor to its management. But poor, needy and old Parsi families are suffering now in this Hospital without proper treatment or care. So we should throw out such negative people from the community and look for the bright and secure future.
Proposal to Tata Trusts :
I have personally sent request by email to Tata Trusts through Hon'ble Ratan Tata to reconstruct and reactivate Surat Parsi General Hospital on the same theme as mentioned above about Shroff Medical Centre project. Shri Ratan Tata has responded for it immediately and ask to submit detailed proposal for it through Surat Parsi panchayat.
I have give detailed letter to all Trustees and request them to submit proposal to Tata Trusts. Surat Parsi panchayat has submitted proposal to Tata Trusts. SPP President Shri Jamshed Dotiwala and Trustee Dr. Homi Doodhwala had meeting with the management team of Tata Trusts on 12/9/2018.
I have sent all above details to Hon'ble Vada Dastoorji Saheb of Udwada also to influence this proposal through Minority Commission of India.
I am now requesting you all to intervene in the matter and make efforts for the early sanction of proposal sent by Surat Parsi panchayat to Tata Trusts.
There is big space available at Parsi General Hospital Surat which is of no use in absence of proper treatment facilities and absence of any Doctor there.
Tata Trusts management is very very positive to sanction the proposal for Surat Parsi General Hospital. But there should be strong willingness and enthusiasm spirit in Trustees of SPP.
May we hope and try our best for the wellbeing of Parsis of Surat and surrounding towns.
Regards
RAYOMAN SORABJI ILAVA
Jal Bharucha - 5 years ago
Why can’t the Parsi Panchayat (PP) spend some of it’s amassed fortune sitting within it’s humongous Trust corpus. Whilst as a matter of 1st principles I have no objection towards cosmopolitanism, I reiterate that this body the PP needs to get its act together, modernize & invest in the well being of the community as well as other Mumbaikars
minoo - 5 years ago
Some people have complained that PGH does not have CT scan and MRI equipment, perhaps the hospital
could shed light as to how many patients have to be sent to other hospitals for this.
Many just complain but cannot justify same.
minoo - 5 years ago
I voted no, only because PGH is to Parsis what Air India is to India.
Can someone, anyone explain how year after year PGH runs at a loss of 10Crores, surely something fishy
going on.
With Parsi Panchayat involved I suspect foul play.
10 crores is not a small amount how come no one has queried this????
Baji - 5 years ago
We have now become a community of convenience. When it is convenient, we turn out to be exclusive and do not believe in secularism. When we are in dire need, that time we truly believe in secularism.
When we are in need of blood, that time we never demand that only Parsee blood is required, because we all know what will be the state of our demand... Do we demand that we require Parsi ward boys and nurse to look after us at PGH? Never....
At times we have to use our minds like the Gujjus and the Sindhis, with an entrepreneurial mind set. See in 70 years where these communities have progressed and compare their state with our profound community??
In today's times we have to think progressive, otherwise we will only be basking in our past glory of what our Baap dada's did, and nothing beyond.
Let's unite and think collectively in a very progressive manner. This thoughtful gesture will help the needy in the long run , and it is not going to dilute the existence of PGH in any ways. Therefore why are we debating and creating a commotion?
Let's open up, times are tough and we have to change with the changing times.
Adil karbhari - 5 years ago
I absolutely love the idea of a cosmopolitan build at the premises. Not all parsi’s can always access facilities to Parsi general and sometimes use other hospitals for their treatments/ailments. Sometimes we have to remind ourselves that we can’t be selfish and narrow minded in our way of thinking! When our community fled to India we were given a big welcome! It’s our turn to now welcome the country’s people that need our help. It’s a beautiful, humble and the right thing to do. To the people that have voted “No” need to be reminded that without the non Parsi staff that tirelessly work for our Parsi General hospital we would not be able to cope/function . The staff, nurses, ward boys are all non Parsi! We need them similarly we need this cosmopolitan build to help them and most importantly us in return! Life is all About give and take! We can’t be selfish and just take take take in the name of Zoroastrianism
Sarah Shroff - 5 years ago
It is an emphatic YES. Where is our once great community heading? Is it due to inbreeding that we are totally losing it? Or are we content on basking on the laurels of our forefathers without any positive contribution of our own.
Katraj shernavaz - 5 years ago
No one is more better than Sir Petit and Madam Aban to take care of our Hospital. They PERSONALLY take care of everything.long live The Petits
Firdosh Debara - 5 years ago
It is a well known saying ‘Parsi thy name is charity ‘. Can we go ahead with building of additional facility for the common good of those around us. Just letting the place be idle is what they called ‘dog in the manger policy’ . People can object, but then they should suggest a viable option and not object for the sake of objecting.
Firdosh Debara - 5 years ago
It is a well known saying ‘Parsi thy name is charity ‘. Can we go ahead with building of additional facility for the common good of those around us. Just letting the place be idle is what they called ‘dog in the manger policy’ . People can object, but then they should suggest a viable option and not object for the sake of objecting.
MINOO PRINTER - 5 years ago
I REMEMBER WHEN MY WIFE WAS HOSPITALISED I HAD TO TAKE HER IN AMBULANCE TO NEARBY BEACH CANDY HOSPITAL FOR VARIOUS TESTS-------I THEREFOR WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE TAKEN BY THE TRUSTEES OF THE HOSPITAL. MOREOVER THE ENTIRE FUNDING WILL BE BY MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY. PARSI THY NAME IS CHARITY. LET US LIVE BY THIS MOTTO..
SK Dhi gra - 5 years ago
YES. Self appointed custodians and so called social activists publcity seekers b treated with contempt and taken to LAW. Community shud out cast these hinderanc creaters.
Vispi Balaporia - 5 years ago
This is a well planned and carefully negotiated project which will benefit the PGH and improve medical facilities. Those opposing have perhaps not properly understood this. I hope they are not doing so with some ulterior motive or unscrupulous backing. Let the good prevail!
Cyrus Gheewala - 5 years ago
Yes , it’s a fantastic idea .
With this The existing facility will get a facelift.
We should go ahead with the proposal.
Kersi sethna - 5 years ago
It would be foolish to oppose thus wonderful gesture by the donners and give a new lease of life to PGH. this will help our community
Xerxes - 5 years ago
I feel cosmopolitan hospital should not be built.
I don't see any thing wrong rightnow with the PGH. It Is doing well and better than many hospital s.
I vote for NO.
I feel in beginning every one says that they will help.
It's the same when an industrialist buys a farm land promises the farmer job in the industry.when he aquires land from framers and when the industry is ready the farmer is begging.
Same way I feel tall promise is made to built cosmopolitan hospital. Once built what is garantee PGH will recieve funds.
In fact all our so called Parsi Doctors will be attracted to New Hospital for higher fees And ignore the PGH AND POOR PAITENTS.
AND OUR SO CALLED PARSI DOCTORS WILL FORCE PEOPLE LIKE US TO GET ADMITED TO NEW HOSPITAL AND WE WILL END UP PAYING TO SAME DOCTORS THREE FOUR TIMES MORE FOR SAME SERVICE .
I think if a cosmopolitan hospital is built poor parsees will not get the treatment they get now in PGH. And others will be forced to new expensive hospital.
Armin Dutia Motashaw - 5 years ago
If good Parsi doctors visit n good Nurses are appointed, the rich will start visiting it
Dalal - 5 years ago
One has to move with the times & a WELL DESIGNED cosmopolitan hospital alongside our dear PGH would be an asset.
Would like, however, a majority of Parsee Board Members to control it with no interference from the badly-managed Parsee Panchayat.
Visionaries like Ratan Tata, H Khushrukhan, to name a few should be invited to the board.
GOOD LUCK ! in all that you do.
Gave Sarkari - 5 years ago
Let the critics realize that PGH today does not have CAT or MRI not because they cannot afford install it, but because the community just does not have the numbers to maintain the equipment and teams on a daily basis.
Jamshed Z Sethna - 5 years ago
Our Parsi institutions(non religious ones) may be allowed to go cosmopolitan as in the case of schools colleges etc.however the management of any institution should and must have a distinct Parsii Identity and ethos so that other communities or individuals do not dare overshadow the parent Parsi institution in any way and take us for granted.Simply said,the Pars community has to have an upper hand in this dog eat dog world where we are conceived as ""gentle souls"".
Poras Saklatwalla - 5 years ago
We must go ahead with the proposal and amsure Petits have done due dilligence. There are certain vested interests who are opposing n those should be shown the Arabian Sea.
Poras Saklatwalla - 5 years ago
We must go ahead with the proposal and amsure Petits have done due dilligence. There are certain vested interests who are opposing n those should be shown the Arabian Sea.
Bakti Dadachanji - 5 years ago
Yes we should go ahead with this proposal of building state of art hospital in our PGH premises. If all the legal formalities are checked and completed we don’t have to worry. Our community will be the loser if the donors pull away their donations.
BARIA V B - 5 years ago
yes, its a step in the right direction..a much needed facility for the public and parsees in particular...terms and conditions are carefully laid down...GOD bless the donors
Aban Samuel - 5 years ago
First be very diligent,careful and with foresight consider the terms and conditions of the MOU. Read and vet the fine print and future conditions so that the Hospital is not duped in the future. The precious property and the heritage of the community should not be exploited and vandalised for the future generations. It is known that there is a possibility of being swalled up especially with the problem of a dwindling community.
nnp - 5 years ago
Why not...benefits of up to date treatment will flow to the community along with funds...seems like a win -win situation....and the donors seem to have promised continuous funds...
KW - 5 years ago
Yes. We should go ahead. Ultimately, the community benefits.
Rumi Kasad - 5 years ago
I see no reason why we should not go ahead with this plan of having this new facility, even if it tantamounts to making it open to one and all.
With the dwindling number of Parsis and insisting that the facility be available only to Parsis is not right, as due to lack of hi Tech facilities most of the affluent Parsis/ Zoroastrians go to other hospitals so that they can get good treatment under one roof.
Yes this has to be done with proper care to ensure that all the legal requirements are met with to ensure that there is no foul play and the rights of the Community and the rights of the Community Property are not compromised.
Rumi Kasad - 5 years ago
I see no reason why we should not go ahead with this plan of having this new facility, even if it tantamounts to making it open to one and all.
With the dwindling number of Parsis and insisting that the facility be available only to Parsis is not right, as due to lack of hi Tech facilities most of the affluent Parsis/ Zoroastrians go to other hospitals so that they can get good treatment under one roof.
Yes this has to be done with proper care to ensure that all the legal requirements are met with to ensure that there is no foul play and the rights of the Community and the rights of the Community Property are not compromised.
M - 5 years ago
Hospital or any kind of medical facility is a fundamental right of any individual. It cannot and should not be restricted to any community in particular.
It would be great if the Parsi community extends its medical facilities to one and all.
Secondly the occupancy of the beds will increase and it will help source new state of the art medical equipment.
So go for it our dear Parsis.!????
Rohinton Ranji - 5 years ago
Some of these facilities are a requirement as patients are sent to other hospitals nearby for conducting tests. It is not only additional cost but also troublesome, to put it mildly, to the poor ailing patient. We Parsis have always been charitable to ALL so let's be magnanimous again.
Rohinton Ranji - 5 years ago
Some of these facilities are a requirement as patients are sent to other hospitals nearby for conducting tests. It is not only additional cost but also troublesome, to put it mildly, to the poor ailing patient. We Parsis have always been charitable to ALL so let's be magnanimous again.
Cannot think of a better venture. If this doesn't make sense nothing else does. This project must see the light of day.
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???? I Congratulate Mr. HOMA D. PETIT for the best decision to establish Shroff Medical centre of the B.D. PETIT Parsee General HospItal at Mumbai. This will surely benefits to the community members as well as serves the brotherhood communities.
Persons with negative mindset who opposes this project should know that Parsi General Hospital at Surat established in the year 1920 was also a glorious Charitable Hospital before upto 3 to 4 decades. But nowadays this Hospital is almost in a shutdown situation since 3 to 4 decades due to such people with negative mindset who had opposed in past wrongly and stopped its future plannings decided by Surat Parsi panchayat.
Hospital is running in very very poor state of treatment facilities due to non availability of proper fund and lack of enthusiasm in present Trustees appointed at Surat Parsi panchayat.
In Surat there are so many Parsi Doctors, Consulting Physicians, Surgeons doing private practices. But not a single Parsi Doctor is visiting / serving here. No resident Doctor available for treatment. Hospital running Ram Bharose on totally careless nursing staff. They don't look after old poor patients and treating them very rudely. Nurses gives Paracetamol tablet to each and every old age patients without having fever to them so they don't disturb them in their night sleep ! Even high command of SPP at Mumbai who appoints Trustees in SPP is not interested to look after problems of patients or to resolve it.
There was neither loss to the people who opposed for the future planning of this Hospital in past nor to its management. But poor, needy and old Parsi families are suffering now in this Hospital without proper treatment or care. So we should throw out such negative people from the community and look for the bright and secure future.
Proposal to Tata Trusts :
I have personally sent request by email to Tata Trusts through Hon'ble Ratan Tata to reconstruct and reactivate Surat Parsi General Hospital on the same theme as mentioned above about Shroff Medical Centre project. Shri Ratan Tata has responded for it immediately and ask to submit detailed proposal for it through Surat Parsi panchayat.
I have give detailed letter to all Trustees and request them to submit proposal to Tata Trusts. Surat Parsi panchayat has submitted proposal to Tata Trusts. SPP President Shri Jamshed Dotiwala and Trustee Dr. Homi Doodhwala had meeting with the management team of Tata Trusts on 12/9/2018.
I have sent all above details to Hon'ble Vada Dastoorji Saheb of Udwada also to influence this proposal through Minority Commission of India.
I am now requesting you all to intervene in the matter and make efforts for the early sanction of proposal sent by Surat Parsi panchayat to Tata Trusts.
There is big space available at Parsi General Hospital Surat which is of no use in absence of proper treatment facilities and absence of any Doctor there.
Tata Trusts management is very very positive to sanction the proposal for Surat Parsi General Hospital. But there should be strong willingness and enthusiasm spirit in Trustees of SPP.
May we hope and try our best for the wellbeing of Parsis of Surat and surrounding towns.
Regards
RAYOMAN SORABJI ILAVA
Why can’t the Parsi Panchayat (PP) spend some of it’s amassed fortune sitting within it’s humongous Trust corpus. Whilst as a matter of 1st principles I have no objection towards cosmopolitanism, I reiterate that this body the PP needs to get its act together, modernize & invest in the well being of the community as well as other Mumbaikars
Some people have complained that PGH does not have CT scan and MRI equipment, perhaps the hospital
could shed light as to how many patients have to be sent to other hospitals for this.
Many just complain but cannot justify same.
I voted no, only because PGH is to Parsis what Air India is to India.
Can someone, anyone explain how year after year PGH runs at a loss of 10Crores, surely something fishy
going on.
With Parsi Panchayat involved I suspect foul play.
10 crores is not a small amount how come no one has queried this????
We have now become a community of convenience. When it is convenient, we turn out to be exclusive and do not believe in secularism. When we are in dire need, that time we truly believe in secularism.
When we are in need of blood, that time we never demand that only Parsee blood is required, because we all know what will be the state of our demand... Do we demand that we require Parsi ward boys and nurse to look after us at PGH? Never....
At times we have to use our minds like the Gujjus and the Sindhis, with an entrepreneurial mind set. See in 70 years where these communities have progressed and compare their state with our profound community??
In today's times we have to think progressive, otherwise we will only be basking in our past glory of what our Baap dada's did, and nothing beyond.
Let's unite and think collectively in a very progressive manner. This thoughtful gesture will help the needy in the long run , and it is not going to dilute the existence of PGH in any ways. Therefore why are we debating and creating a commotion?
Let's open up, times are tough and we have to change with the changing times.
I absolutely love the idea of a cosmopolitan build at the premises. Not all parsi’s can always access facilities to Parsi general and sometimes use other hospitals for their treatments/ailments. Sometimes we have to remind ourselves that we can’t be selfish and narrow minded in our way of thinking! When our community fled to India we were given a big welcome! It’s our turn to now welcome the country’s people that need our help. It’s a beautiful, humble and the right thing to do. To the people that have voted “No” need to be reminded that without the non Parsi staff that tirelessly work for our Parsi General hospital we would not be able to cope/function . The staff, nurses, ward boys are all non Parsi! We need them similarly we need this cosmopolitan build to help them and most importantly us in return! Life is all About give and take! We can’t be selfish and just take take take in the name of Zoroastrianism
It is an emphatic YES. Where is our once great community heading? Is it due to inbreeding that we are totally losing it? Or are we content on basking on the laurels of our forefathers without any positive contribution of our own.
No one is more better than Sir Petit and Madam Aban to take care of our Hospital. They PERSONALLY take care of everything.long live The Petits
It is a well known saying ‘Parsi thy name is charity ‘. Can we go ahead with building of additional facility for the common good of those around us. Just letting the place be idle is what they called ‘dog in the manger policy’ . People can object, but then they should suggest a viable option and not object for the sake of objecting.
It is a well known saying ‘Parsi thy name is charity ‘. Can we go ahead with building of additional facility for the common good of those around us. Just letting the place be idle is what they called ‘dog in the manger policy’ . People can object, but then they should suggest a viable option and not object for the sake of objecting.
I REMEMBER WHEN MY WIFE WAS HOSPITALISED I HAD TO TAKE HER IN AMBULANCE TO NEARBY BEACH CANDY HOSPITAL FOR VARIOUS TESTS-------I THEREFOR WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE TAKEN BY THE TRUSTEES OF THE HOSPITAL. MOREOVER THE ENTIRE FUNDING WILL BE BY MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY. PARSI THY NAME IS CHARITY. LET US LIVE BY THIS MOTTO..
YES. Self appointed custodians and so called social activists publcity seekers b treated with contempt and taken to LAW. Community shud out cast these hinderanc creaters.
This is a well planned and carefully negotiated project which will benefit the PGH and improve medical facilities. Those opposing have perhaps not properly understood this. I hope they are not doing so with some ulterior motive or unscrupulous backing. Let the good prevail!
Yes , it’s a fantastic idea .
With this The existing facility will get a facelift.
We should go ahead with the proposal.
It would be foolish to oppose thus wonderful gesture by the donners and give a new lease of life to PGH. this will help our community
I feel cosmopolitan hospital should not be built.
I don't see any thing wrong rightnow with the PGH. It Is doing well and better than many hospital s.
I vote for NO.
I feel in beginning every one says that they will help.
It's the same when an industrialist buys a farm land promises the farmer job in the industry.when he aquires land from framers and when the industry is ready the farmer is begging.
Same way I feel tall promise is made to built cosmopolitan hospital. Once built what is garantee PGH will recieve funds.
In fact all our so called Parsi Doctors will be attracted to New Hospital for higher fees And ignore the PGH AND POOR PAITENTS.
AND OUR SO CALLED PARSI DOCTORS WILL FORCE PEOPLE LIKE US TO GET ADMITED TO NEW HOSPITAL AND WE WILL END UP PAYING TO SAME DOCTORS THREE FOUR TIMES MORE FOR SAME SERVICE .
I think if a cosmopolitan hospital is built poor parsees will not get the treatment they get now in PGH. And others will be forced to new expensive hospital.
If good Parsi doctors visit n good Nurses are appointed, the rich will start visiting it
One has to move with the times & a WELL DESIGNED cosmopolitan hospital alongside our dear PGH would be an asset.
Would like, however, a majority of Parsee Board Members to control it with no interference from the badly-managed Parsee Panchayat.
Visionaries like Ratan Tata, H Khushrukhan, to name a few should be invited to the board.
GOOD LUCK ! in all that you do.
Let the critics realize that PGH today does not have CAT or MRI not because they cannot afford install it, but because the community just does not have the numbers to maintain the equipment and teams on a daily basis.
Our Parsi institutions(non religious ones) may be allowed to go cosmopolitan as in the case of schools colleges etc.however the management of any institution should and must have a distinct Parsii Identity and ethos so that other communities or individuals do not dare overshadow the parent Parsi institution in any way and take us for granted.Simply said,the Pars community has to have an upper hand in this dog eat dog world where we are conceived as ""gentle souls"".
We must go ahead with the proposal and amsure Petits have done due dilligence. There are certain vested interests who are opposing n those should be shown the Arabian Sea.
We must go ahead with the proposal and amsure Petits have done due dilligence. There are certain vested interests who are opposing n those should be shown the Arabian Sea.
Yes we should go ahead with this proposal of building state of art hospital in our PGH premises. If all the legal formalities are checked and completed we don’t have to worry. Our community will be the loser if the donors pull away their donations.
yes, its a step in the right direction..a much needed facility for the public and parsees in particular...terms and conditions are carefully laid down...GOD bless the donors
First be very diligent,careful and with foresight consider the terms and conditions of the MOU. Read and vet the fine print and future conditions so that the Hospital is not duped in the future. The precious property and the heritage of the community should not be exploited and vandalised for the future generations. It is known that there is a possibility of being swalled up especially with the problem of a dwindling community.
Why not...benefits of up to date treatment will flow to the community along with funds...seems like a win -win situation....and the donors seem to have promised continuous funds...
Yes. We should go ahead. Ultimately, the community benefits.
I see no reason why we should not go ahead with this plan of having this new facility, even if it tantamounts to making it open to one and all.
With the dwindling number of Parsis and insisting that the facility be available only to Parsis is not right, as due to lack of hi Tech facilities most of the affluent Parsis/ Zoroastrians go to other hospitals so that they can get good treatment under one roof.
Yes this has to be done with proper care to ensure that all the legal requirements are met with to ensure that there is no foul play and the rights of the Community and the rights of the Community Property are not compromised.
I see no reason why we should not go ahead with this plan of having this new facility, even if it tantamounts to making it open to one and all.
With the dwindling number of Parsis and insisting that the facility be available only to Parsis is not right, as due to lack of hi Tech facilities most of the affluent Parsis/ Zoroastrians go to other hospitals so that they can get good treatment under one roof.
Yes this has to be done with proper care to ensure that all the legal requirements are met with to ensure that there is no foul play and the rights of the Community and the rights of the Community Property are not compromised.
Hospital or any kind of medical facility is a fundamental right of any individual. It cannot and should not be restricted to any community in particular.
It would be great if the Parsi community extends its medical facilities to one and all.
Secondly the occupancy of the beds will increase and it will help source new state of the art medical equipment.
So go for it our dear Parsis.!????
Some of these facilities are a requirement as patients are sent to other hospitals nearby for conducting tests. It is not only additional cost but also troublesome, to put it mildly, to the poor ailing patient. We Parsis have always been charitable to ALL so let's be magnanimous again.
Some of these facilities are a requirement as patients are sent to other hospitals nearby for conducting tests. It is not only additional cost but also troublesome, to put it mildly, to the poor ailing patient. We Parsis have always been charitable to ALL so let's be magnanimous again.