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Pan’s Labyrinth is del Toro’s best, and Grizzly Man is not Herzog’s best. Having said this, Herzog is the superior film maker and clearly deserves the W on this matchup.
Del Toro has never quite reached the same heights he achieved with his gorgeous tapestry of a masterpiece. This girl crafting an enchanting world to turn to in the face of an unspeakably harsh reality is not only a beautiful way to structure a fantasy film, but a fitting ode to what is likely the very purpose of fairy tales in the scope of human experience to begin with.
Grizzly Man is an extremely watchable film, but probably has an outsized following for its shocking context and a few scenes more than it actually being an exceptional piece of filmmaking on its own merits. I actually think Fog Of War deserved to be here in its place.
Pan's Labyrinth, easily.
I'd vote for Grizzly Man over a lot of good movies - but not over Pan's Labyrinth.
For me, the vote was easy, because, while I love "Pan's Labyrinth", "Grizzly Man" is actually the more interesting film to me.
I haven't listened to FS in a few months and I remember that Adam and Josh had mentioned last year that they were open to suggestions, so it is my own fault for not writing in, but from a German perspective, I have to say that I am really upset, that neither "The Lives of Others" nor "Downfall" are in the list. While I can live without the latter, I think leaving out the former is a giant mistake. I know many American Fanboys are mad because it beat "Pan's Labyrinth" at the Oscars, but it is actually a quite important film that is still beloved worldwide today. Last year you left out "Run Lola Run", this year it is "TLoO" while putting in THREE Pixar films, "Wendy and Lucy", "The New World" AND even "Anchorman". Somehow, that is the element of FS Madness that drives me mad the most.
Ooof I wish I could keep one of the few documentaries in the madness, but Pan's Labyrinth is del Toro's best. Dark fantasy beats dark reality.
The Pale Man sequence alone makes Pan's Labyrinth the stand-out choice.
An enjoyable documentary stands no chance against Guillermo’s masterpiece, beautiful, horrifying, moving, transcendent, breathtaking.
An enjoyable documentary stands no chance against Guillermo’s masterpiece, beautiful, horrifying, moving, transcendent, breathtaking.
Seeing Pan's Labyrinth in the theater was an epiphany on how a film could become a transcendent experience that surpasses the boundaries of its own medium. I cite Pan's Labyrinth regularly as one of my all-time favorite movies. Regarding Grizzly Man, I found the documentary troublesome. Herzog seemed to skirt around the obvious mental health issues at play here. For me, Pan's Labyrinth is the clear winner.
I had enjoyed del Toro's work prior to Pan's Labyrinth (I believe I'm on record stanning for BLADE II), but this film shattered my expectations of his capabilities. Pan's Labyrinth isn't just stunningly imaginative and beautiful, it's utterly rooted in history and it's jammed with insight into humanity and our relationships with stories. I love Grizzly Man and Herzog's late period documentaries are so so good (I mean he made a great documentary out of a bunch footage that he didn't even shoot), but Pan's Labyrinth is more successful at tapping into larger lessons of who we are and what we can be, in my opinion, so it gets my vote here.
Both films could be considered beautiful and terrifying for their own reasons, and each had a director working at the top of their game. For me del Toro’s vision is undeniable.