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Why do you hurt me so, Filmspotting? I've seen The Incredibles countless times (I can quote most of it, though mostly in Danish...), and it remains one of the most watchable films Pixar has ever produced, perhaps only tainted by a lackluster sequel and some animation work that, while revolutionary at the time, feels a tad dated now. It's still top five superhero movie material after all these years.
But Lord of the Rings is one of cinemas greatest achievements. So while it hurts me to vote against my childhood, I have to put on my grown up pants and vote for the better, and more deserving, film.
This was an easy choice for me. While “The Incredibles” is a fine Pixar film, “Fellowship” is a bold, ambitious, and brilliantly conceived vision of Tolkien’s vast fantasy world. Sure, it’s just the first leg of a three-film journey, but what a way to introduce us to this complex world and compelling band of characters. It’s a film I admire on so many levels. Plus, there is a real absence of huge sprawling epics in Madness. How could I possibly vote against such a fantastic example of the epic done right? Sorry Incredibles.
I completely agree with Elongated Muskrat. While The Incredibles was a good movie when I was 10 years old, the LOTR series has stuck with me for years. Even today LOTR is an amazing series compared to newer movies and I cannot say the same for The Incredibles. Definitely an easy choice for me.
I could not disagree more with Rachel Wiseman. LOTR is clearly far superior to the Incredibles, and that is a fact. If the Incredibles wins, then I will have to buy Pixar and delete it.
I don't think I've ever seen someone be more wrong then Rachel Wiseman. LOTR is hands down better than The Incredibles, not even a comparison. I love Pixar movies as much as the next guy, but just because it's the last one does not mean it should win. Rachel Wiseman is clearly off her rocker.
I cannot believe you made me choose between my favorite superhero movie against my favorite movie.
If the Incredibles loses to LOTR then there will be NO MORE PIXAR MOVIES. This is unacceptable and you should all be ashamed. So please, don't do Jack Jack dirty like this and just let Frodo die.
If the Incredibles loses to LOTR then there will be NO MORE PIXAR MOVIES. This is unacceptable and you should all be ashamed. So please, don't do Jack Jack dirty like this and just let Frodo die.
For years I have adored LOTR, but after a recent revisit I came to a startling conclusion: The filmmaking is pretty clunky! It actually pains me to admit this, because I have long regarded the trilogy to be a cinematic highlight; something we could all agree should live on forever.
Not so, anymore. Wouldn't it be fascinating to see Peter Jackson's LOTR incinerated so we could make way for a Christopher Nolan adaptation? Think about that for a minute.
Alas, The Incredibles holds up (and actually gets better) with repeated viewing.
Nerd’s Choice!
Oh, come on! I can't imagine a more difficult choice in this tournament!
The Incredibles is smart, funny, a movie that I would argue has no faults, one of the best Pixar has to offer. But where The Incredibles has brisk pacing and a clever wit, Fellowship has grandeur, an epic quality that subsequent films have attempted but failed to replicate.
Michael Giacchino's jazzy score for the Incredibles is immensely fun, my first introduction to one of my favorite working composers, and one of my favorite pieces of music I ever got to play in band class. But Howard Shore's score for The Lord of the Rings is an unqualified masterpiece, Fellowship included.
Incredibles has the incredible voice work of Craig T. Nelson, Holly Hunter, Samuel L. Jackson, and Jason Lee, who's performance as Syndrome makes what is probably one of the best super-villains committed to the screen. But Fellowship has Ian McKellen, Sean Astin, Vigo Mortensen, and Sean Bean, all of whom deserve greater recognition for their work in the Lord of the Rings (maybe not McKellen, he seems pretty well recognized).
I think... I have to go Fellowship. The Lord of the Rings as a whole is a singular achievement. It just has too much going for it.
I'm sorry, Brad Bird.
Damn you, Madness.
There's a way of looking at these films as family films rather than their respective genres. The Incredibles is a family film rather than a superhero film and LOTR could be viewed as a family film rather than a fantasy film. LOTR is a little bit more of a stretch but after this long adventure, it's hard to see this collection of heroes as anything but a family. The Incredibles is so smart, it's a joy to watch, and the family dynamics ring true so so well. The Incredibles is not only the best Pixar film but maybe even the best family film of all time.
This was an incredibly hard choice (no pun intended), but in the end the sick and twisted logic of the Madness guided me to my answer. If all other films of the decade were to be destroyed, why would I choose the first part of a trilogy that would then exist alone and without resolution over a beautifully crafted stand-alone adventure? The Incredibles it is.
The Lord of the Rings films ceased to exist for me moments after seeing them, so it will be no problem to have them consigned to oblivion by losing here. The Incredibles all the way!
So... this is tough. The Incredibles is a perfect film. The LOTR trilogy is the definitive example of building an immersive world in adapting a literary work. What pushes me over the edge is this: LOTR is an incredible blend of old-school classic film making meeting up with the state of the art. Jackson's use of miniatures, forced perspective, practical sets and effects blended with CGI should still serve as the gold standard. As a fun bonus, I would love to know how many of today's up-and-coming directors were first inspired by the appendices to the extended editions of the films. They are a mini film school in a box.
The Incredibles is a great film. I would be sad to see it go. But if it ceased to exist tomorrow, there are any number of films that cover similar topics (though rarely as cleverly), showcase similar technological prowess, and blend humour and heart. It's hard to think of any other film series that covers the same ground as the LOTR trilogy.
Did City of God seriously not make it past the FIRST round in a "best of the 2000's" bracket?
These madness tourneys always find a way to crush my soul and make me lose all faith in the wisdom of crowds, but never this early in the game. What have you people done??!
I love Incredibles, but Fellowship, easily. Top 5 of the decade and Top 20 of all time for me.
Still reeling from the early loss of Pixar-favorite Ratatouille, I'll settle for pushing second-favorite The Incredibles forward into the next round.
I am a little surprised that it is this early in the tournament that I am wanting to punish those that have caused my pain. It is not the pain caused by a difficult choice, like Sophie's; it is the pain of a choice like in The Good Son--I know that my decision is correct, but I feel like I am letting go of family. And, unlike The Good Son, this family member isn't even a bad one. I have had to suffer saying goodbye to Jack Jack, and Edna Mode. Will my own children forgive me? It doesn't matter, I must choose the film that is immersed in environmentalism. One that tries to remind us that trees are powerful, and that men can care about each other unabashedly. And that we should be wary of the pseudo-alpha braggarts and embrace the empathetic and altruistic. Long live Fellowship.
So what is the atonement for Sam, Josh, and Adam having engendered such a choice? It will be similar to the punishment in Brewster's Millions. They will be locked in a room and forced to watch The Godfather over and over, until they all hate it.
The Incredibles is one of my favorite films. It does everything wonderfully- great characters, adventure, visuals, music, and humor. And it's just plain fun. Most movies are lucky to get only one or two of these things right, but Incredibles has the entire package, which is exceedingly rare. And for the Ring series... I just don't get why it's a thing. The money is up there on the screen. But it's all doom and gloom from there. For 3 hours. And then another 3 hours. Plus 3 additional hours. Yet nothing seems to happen. Walk for a while. Have a battle. Get scared discussing the fate of the world. Repeat many times. Can I leave the theater now? Please?
Jon "The Penultimate Pestilence" W
(That's my Filmspotting nickname from Sam)
In West Lafayette, Indiana
I agree 100% with Adam Grossman. The first Lord of the Rings was a singular movie going experience for me, I'd seen a lot of movies I enjoyed before that in the movie theater but this was the first one that took my breath away with the scope of it. That said I voted for The Incredibles. Why? I don't know these are all impossible choices.
I get all the arguments for Fellowship of the Ring, especially as an avatar for the groundbreaking scope of the entire endeavor of filming the trilogy, but . . . in this apocalyptic hellscape where only one movie from the 2000s survives, Tolkien's books will continue to exist, so the best parts of this film will not be lost: Gandalf will whisper "Fly, you fools" no matter what happens here. So I voted for Pixar here and their, uh, incredible achievement of telling a superhero story that resonates in everyday life.
Sam recently posted a great idea for a top five on Twitter – the single move-going experience you most wish you could have again for the first time. I believe Adam and Josh wrongly turned down the idea or had no good suggestions (WHAT?!).
My choice was ‘The Fellowship of the Ring’ – I never dreamed the Lord of the Rings could translate so brilliantly and beautifully to the big screen – it felt like I hardly blinked for its, admittedly, very long runtime.
‘The Incredibles’…? “YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!”
I loved The Incredibles. Full of great jokes. Even in the soundtrack. But come on! The LOTR trilogy changed film. New technology had to be developed to make it. We were transported to a land we had never seen, and experienced thrills never before experienced. It's The Fellowship for me.