I’d probably get one, it depends on the price. I don’t expect it to be cheap of course but Apple has been going insane on the pricing, especially since they’ve made it so you cannot swap out any key components yourself. It was nice when Apple was letting folk get off n the game and be able to upgrade themselves when they had the need and funds later on down the road. This all now or nothing approach sucks and keeps a lot of people from buying. I personally know about 8-9 people. I know is about making money but let the people that can afford it pay the extra $600 for the extra tb of ssd, let me pay my entry price and upgrade down the line for $200 and put it in myself. Fixing that keyboard is big too, that’s another reason folk I know haven’t updated, especially me. The horror stories I’ve read. One guy in Texas closes Apple store was 3 hours away which he had to drive to repeatedly to get the keyboard fixed. After only having it about a minute month. After several times in he asked if her could return it for store credit and get a desktop and they said no.
Rajesh Ramachandran - 5 years ago
Apple must regain its lost glory. As of now apple products are good only for their extrorbitant price tag
!!
Eddie Cohen - 5 years ago
Coming from a 2012 mbp 13”, I don’t see a need to get a new machine for any reason other than my machine is old and underpowered. I would jump at a machine with a larger screen and biometric login to replace the old fashioned password. The biggest problem for me is getting a large screen MacBook or with extra ports, which for me is a necessity, is that I also need to pay for even more power or graphics that i don’t need. If I could, i would take the i7 and Intel gpu from the two port mbp and ddr4 ram and stuff in some extra battery, and maybe also remove the Touch Bar because it’s just a gimmick. If I needed to wait for Apple to remove the bezels from a 13” mbp to 14” in a year instead of an ultra powered 16” in a few months i would consider it.
Brian Moor - 5 years ago
The idea of a 16-inch Macbook Pro is intriguing -- even at its rumored beginning price point of $3K. Like you, I questioned (and lamented) the loss of the 17-inch model, even though my current laptop is a vintage 13-inch MbP. Let's face it, Apple have not given many of us a compelling reason to upgrade with the recent decline in reliability.The iMac Pro and the upcoming resurrection of the cheese grater mac pro are horribly overpriced. As such, I'm looking for a machine to fill both the role of desktop workstation and laptop. Will a 16-inch MbP fill that role? I sure hope so. I really don't want to see another disappointing offering from Apple that will force me to go searching the net for refurb machines.
Ryan Lester - 5 years ago
The promise of a better keyboard is the biggest thing for me, but I'll believe it when I test it myself. It also needs to have a keymap option of Dvorak at purchase time or easily swappable keycaps, neither one of which is the case today afaik.
What downgrades my answer from probably not to definitely not is the screen. My 2013 MBPr has 2 TB SSD, a good enough CPU, a good enough (Retina) screen, a keyboard that I know is great, and overall proven time-tested reliability. At the current pace of technological advancement, it's going to be a very long time before there's a compelling reason that I HAVE to upgrade, barring a major hardware vulnerability that can't be patched in software.
Keyboard situation aside, at a minimum my next laptop needs an (ideally 4K+) OLED screen or it's a hard pass. 32+ GB LPDDR4 RAM as well, and if not a fast ARM CPU then at least a 10mm x86 with ME/PSP removed or circumvented. Oh and the touch bar needs to be gone/optional, preferably with TouchID still present. I'd also like a 13" (or 14") model, but 16" would be basically fine if all my other boxes were ticked.
if Apple doesn't get their shit together by 2022 or so, I may just settle for another manufacturer and throw Linux on it.
Ryan Lester - 5 years ago
The promise of a better keyboard is the biggest thing for me, but I'll believe it when I test it myself. It also needs to have a keymap option of Dvorak at purchase time or easily swappable keycaps, neither one of which is the case today afaik.
What downgrades my answer from probably not to definitely not is the screen. My 2013 MBPr has 2 TB SSD, a good enough CPU, a good enough (Retina) screen, a keyboard that I know is great, and overall proven time-tested reliability. At the current pace of technological advancement, it's going to be a very long time before there's a compelling reason that I HAVE to upgrade, barring a major hardware vulnerability that can't be patched in software.
All that being said, keyboard situation aside, at a minimum my keyboard needs an (ideally 4K+) OLED screen or it's a hard pass. 32+ GB LPDDR4 RAM as well, and if not a fast ARM CPU then at least a 10mm x86 with ME/PSP removed or circumvented. Oh and the touch bar needs to be gone/optional, preferably with TouchID still present. I'd also like a 13" (or 14") model, but 16" would be basically fine if all my other boxes were ticked.
if Apple doesn't get their shit together by 2022 or so, I may just settle for another manufacturer and throw Linux on it.
I’d probably get one, it depends on the price. I don’t expect it to be cheap of course but Apple has been going insane on the pricing, especially since they’ve made it so you cannot swap out any key components yourself. It was nice when Apple was letting folk get off n the game and be able to upgrade themselves when they had the need and funds later on down the road. This all now or nothing approach sucks and keeps a lot of people from buying. I personally know about 8-9 people. I know is about making money but let the people that can afford it pay the extra $600 for the extra tb of ssd, let me pay my entry price and upgrade down the line for $200 and put it in myself. Fixing that keyboard is big too, that’s another reason folk I know haven’t updated, especially me. The horror stories I’ve read. One guy in Texas closes Apple store was 3 hours away which he had to drive to repeatedly to get the keyboard fixed. After only having it about a minute month. After several times in he asked if her could return it for store credit and get a desktop and they said no.
Apple must regain its lost glory. As of now apple products are good only for their extrorbitant price tag
!!
Coming from a 2012 mbp 13”, I don’t see a need to get a new machine for any reason other than my machine is old and underpowered. I would jump at a machine with a larger screen and biometric login to replace the old fashioned password. The biggest problem for me is getting a large screen MacBook or with extra ports, which for me is a necessity, is that I also need to pay for even more power or graphics that i don’t need. If I could, i would take the i7 and Intel gpu from the two port mbp and ddr4 ram and stuff in some extra battery, and maybe also remove the Touch Bar because it’s just a gimmick. If I needed to wait for Apple to remove the bezels from a 13” mbp to 14” in a year instead of an ultra powered 16” in a few months i would consider it.
The idea of a 16-inch Macbook Pro is intriguing -- even at its rumored beginning price point of $3K. Like you, I questioned (and lamented) the loss of the 17-inch model, even though my current laptop is a vintage 13-inch MbP. Let's face it, Apple have not given many of us a compelling reason to upgrade with the recent decline in reliability.The iMac Pro and the upcoming resurrection of the cheese grater mac pro are horribly overpriced. As such, I'm looking for a machine to fill both the role of desktop workstation and laptop. Will a 16-inch MbP fill that role? I sure hope so. I really don't want to see another disappointing offering from Apple that will force me to go searching the net for refurb machines.
The promise of a better keyboard is the biggest thing for me, but I'll believe it when I test it myself. It also needs to have a keymap option of Dvorak at purchase time or easily swappable keycaps, neither one of which is the case today afaik.
What downgrades my answer from probably not to definitely not is the screen. My 2013 MBPr has 2 TB SSD, a good enough CPU, a good enough (Retina) screen, a keyboard that I know is great, and overall proven time-tested reliability. At the current pace of technological advancement, it's going to be a very long time before there's a compelling reason that I HAVE to upgrade, barring a major hardware vulnerability that can't be patched in software.
Keyboard situation aside, at a minimum my next laptop needs an (ideally 4K+) OLED screen or it's a hard pass. 32+ GB LPDDR4 RAM as well, and if not a fast ARM CPU then at least a 10mm x86 with ME/PSP removed or circumvented. Oh and the touch bar needs to be gone/optional, preferably with TouchID still present. I'd also like a 13" (or 14") model, but 16" would be basically fine if all my other boxes were ticked.
if Apple doesn't get their shit together by 2022 or so, I may just settle for another manufacturer and throw Linux on it.
The promise of a better keyboard is the biggest thing for me, but I'll believe it when I test it myself. It also needs to have a keymap option of Dvorak at purchase time or easily swappable keycaps, neither one of which is the case today afaik.
What downgrades my answer from probably not to definitely not is the screen. My 2013 MBPr has 2 TB SSD, a good enough CPU, a good enough (Retina) screen, a keyboard that I know is great, and overall proven time-tested reliability. At the current pace of technological advancement, it's going to be a very long time before there's a compelling reason that I HAVE to upgrade, barring a major hardware vulnerability that can't be patched in software.
All that being said, keyboard situation aside, at a minimum my keyboard needs an (ideally 4K+) OLED screen or it's a hard pass. 32+ GB LPDDR4 RAM as well, and if not a fast ARM CPU then at least a 10mm x86 with ME/PSP removed or circumvented. Oh and the touch bar needs to be gone/optional, preferably with TouchID still present. I'd also like a 13" (or 14") model, but 16" would be basically fine if all my other boxes were ticked.
if Apple doesn't get their shit together by 2022 or so, I may just settle for another manufacturer and throw Linux on it.