What do you think of the opposing view?

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  • J Norton - 5 years ago

    Every day criminal courts deprive people of their liberty who are not convicted of crime. Not just their right to have a gun, but their very right to live outside a government cage. We call this the bail system, and we justify it by saying that where there is a reasonable basis to believe a crime has been committed and where there is a reasonable basis to conclude either that the persons will not show up for trial or that he will present a danger if he is released we may detain him pending trial. And, yes, some of these people are subsequently found to be innocent.

    The bail system has been around for centuries and is even recognized in the 8th Amendment to our constitution. If due process permits us to cage people who are presumed innocent, surely it will also permit us to temporarily keep guns away from those who have given a reasonable basis to believe they may be dangerous to themselves or others.

  • JMK - 5 years ago

    The entire premise upon which these laws are based is fundamentally flawed. In a constitutional republic, citizens are not deprived of their rights except via due process. These laws penalize gun owners based upon the fears of those who "feel" threatened, even though no specific threat has necessarily been made by the intended target of the seizure. And furthermore, citizens are to be presumed innocent until adjudicated as guilty --- these laws force gun owners to prove innocence, rather than having the government prove guilt. These laws turn the entire process of our legal jurisprudence upside down.

    The Framers of our Constitution must be rolling in their graves.

  • JM - 5 years ago

    We are parents of an adult child diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. Over the past 20 years he has been hospitalized several times, threatened to take his own life several times and wanted to get a gun so he could shoot people who are harassing him. With his history he should be on a list of people who should not be able to buy a guy. We cannot, nor can his doctor, get him on such a list due to privacy laws. We wish our state had a red flag law.

  • Tim S - 5 years ago

    This view is nonsensical and dangerous. No one can argue that there are not people out there that have no business having access to firearms. This is yet more evidence that gun nuts can be counted on to be in support of unlimited access to lethal firepower for criminals and the insane. No matter how many innocents are slaughtered, they will offer zero solutions. All they care about is selling more guns and they don’t care who buys them.

  • Brent Willems - 5 years ago

    Dangerous people would celebrate the passage of Red Flag laws. They can have the police disarm their victims without needing a reason other than claiming that they're the ones who are dangerous. The abusers can then attack their victims without fear of them defending themselves.

  • In known - 5 years ago

    Salem witch trials, blasphemy laws...people being accused of doing or saying something and being burned at the stake or stoned to death without due process.....this is what happens when we stop teaching history in schools all of it the good the bad and the most Hyenas.... ex. Genocide of the American Indian the holocaust, slavery all the good that has been done by governments and all the bad that has been done by the governments of the world.

  • In known - 5 years ago

    Salem witch trials, blasphemy laws...people being accused of doing or saying something and being burned at the stake or stoned to death without due process.....this is what happens when we stop teaching history in schools all of it the good the bad and the most Hyenas.... ex. Genocide of the American Indian the holocaust, slavery all the good that has been done by governments and all the bad that has been done by the governments of the world.

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