You get loaded at 3pm Long Beach, California no parking allowed in the area, it's gonna take you 2 to 3 hours before you can get out of traffic and maybe find a parking spot. Time and distance is once again about controlling the driver. Trucking is not a 9 to 5 job, and whomever thinks it is has never done any REAL TRUCKING.
Bob - 2 years ago
I just use it to get home generally an extra 30-50miles is all I need but I like to be home everynight
Robert Baker - 2 years ago
Sleep time is crucial before driving especially at night. And if you really are not driving to advance the loaded trailer to destination of delivery that should be included in personal convenience. Just split the time off that's noted as personal convenience from your 10-hour reset rule if you have doubt about getting ticketed and note reason for move.
Robert Baker - 2 years ago
Sleep time is crucial before driving especially at night. And if you really are not driving to advance the loaded trailer to destination of delivery that should be included in personal convenience. Just split the time off that's noted as personal convenience from your 10-hour reset rule if you have doubt about getting ticketed and note reason for move.
Stephen Stinnett - 2 years ago
We can't drive over 11 hrs in commercial vehicles,,,
But it's OK to drive your 11 hrs back to the yard and get in your personal vehicle and drive another 5 hrs to Vegas for Batchelor party !?!?!?!?,,,,, regulations make no sense
PC is personal ,, DPS shouldn't be able to talk about it cause it's personal,,, lol
Juan Bellamy - 2 years ago
I do not know why this is so confusing to some people. PC is for personal use, as long as you are not advancing the load you are good to go.
The violations are coming from the foreigners advancing their loads and acting like they do not know the rules. I've talked with my company about this a few times and as long as that load is not getting closer to where it's going you are ok.
Richard Davis - 2 years ago
Mike Faraci, you are wrong, there shouldn't be a mileage limit. Owner-operators are different than if you drove for a company, in almost everything to do with trucking. If an o/o is on his/her 34 hr. reset, at home or where ever, and decides to work on the truck, that is their choice. It shouldn't affect their being on a 34-hour reset. A company driver would be different, technically, even if they just drove it somewhere to get worked on. Everything is just not black and white in trucking.
Bull Perry - 2 years ago
I disagree with Mikes view point for several reasons which is why there has not been an absolute decision on interpretation. #1 sadly many company drivers have no personal means of transportation. Companies often allow drivers to bobtail or deadhead home for there personal time off. Drivers in this situation often use there trucks to bobtail to Walmart to get groceries or to local laundromat to do laundry. That is 100% PC so to make it either black or white in ALL cases would be stupid. PC / off duty driving is simply that, being released of duty and driving for PERSONAL OFF DUTY NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT DRIVING. #2. In the example of Daniel as an owner operator going to pick up a new truck, according to mike that should not be PC. But if Daniel takes his wife along and they take several days to see the sights and have a mini vacation, then what does it become? PC or on duty driving? If it were 100% black and white as mike suggested , we wouldn’t be debating this topic and insurance companies wouldn’t write and it wouldn’t be required to have Bobtail insurance.
Mike we are over regulated as it is, let it go, allow the carriers to pay there bobtail insurance and call it a day my friend.
Mike Faraci - 2 years ago
PC should have a distance/time limit. The comment by Daniel Raasch is actually “driving or on duty” time. Driving from Illinois to Oklahoma to pick up your new truck is work not personal time. PC is so pose to allow a driver that brings his/her truck home to travel from unloading point to there house to spend time off duty or from home after being off duty to their loading lactation. Or from the truck stop to a restaurant to eat and back to the truck stop.
Daniel Raasch - 2 years ago
I own my truck. I live in Illinois and bought a new truck in Oklahoma. I don’t need a “carriers” permission to drive my old truck to Oklahoma to pick up my new one. There is no limit to legitimate “PC”!
You get loaded at 3pm Long Beach, California no parking allowed in the area, it's gonna take you 2 to 3 hours before you can get out of traffic and maybe find a parking spot. Time and distance is once again about controlling the driver. Trucking is not a 9 to 5 job, and whomever thinks it is has never done any REAL TRUCKING.
I just use it to get home generally an extra 30-50miles is all I need but I like to be home everynight
Sleep time is crucial before driving especially at night. And if you really are not driving to advance the loaded trailer to destination of delivery that should be included in personal convenience. Just split the time off that's noted as personal convenience from your 10-hour reset rule if you have doubt about getting ticketed and note reason for move.
Sleep time is crucial before driving especially at night. And if you really are not driving to advance the loaded trailer to destination of delivery that should be included in personal convenience. Just split the time off that's noted as personal convenience from your 10-hour reset rule if you have doubt about getting ticketed and note reason for move.
We can't drive over 11 hrs in commercial vehicles,,,
But it's OK to drive your 11 hrs back to the yard and get in your personal vehicle and drive another 5 hrs to Vegas for Batchelor party !?!?!?!?,,,,, regulations make no sense
PC is personal ,, DPS shouldn't be able to talk about it cause it's personal,,, lol
I do not know why this is so confusing to some people. PC is for personal use, as long as you are not advancing the load you are good to go.
The violations are coming from the foreigners advancing their loads and acting like they do not know the rules. I've talked with my company about this a few times and as long as that load is not getting closer to where it's going you are ok.
Mike Faraci, you are wrong, there shouldn't be a mileage limit. Owner-operators are different than if you drove for a company, in almost everything to do with trucking. If an o/o is on his/her 34 hr. reset, at home or where ever, and decides to work on the truck, that is their choice. It shouldn't affect their being on a 34-hour reset. A company driver would be different, technically, even if they just drove it somewhere to get worked on. Everything is just not black and white in trucking.
I disagree with Mikes view point for several reasons which is why there has not been an absolute decision on interpretation. #1 sadly many company drivers have no personal means of transportation. Companies often allow drivers to bobtail or deadhead home for there personal time off. Drivers in this situation often use there trucks to bobtail to Walmart to get groceries or to local laundromat to do laundry. That is 100% PC so to make it either black or white in ALL cases would be stupid. PC / off duty driving is simply that, being released of duty and driving for PERSONAL OFF DUTY NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT DRIVING. #2. In the example of Daniel as an owner operator going to pick up a new truck, according to mike that should not be PC. But if Daniel takes his wife along and they take several days to see the sights and have a mini vacation, then what does it become? PC or on duty driving? If it were 100% black and white as mike suggested , we wouldn’t be debating this topic and insurance companies wouldn’t write and it wouldn’t be required to have Bobtail insurance.
Mike we are over regulated as it is, let it go, allow the carriers to pay there bobtail insurance and call it a day my friend.
PC should have a distance/time limit. The comment by Daniel Raasch is actually “driving or on duty” time. Driving from Illinois to Oklahoma to pick up your new truck is work not personal time. PC is so pose to allow a driver that brings his/her truck home to travel from unloading point to there house to spend time off duty or from home after being off duty to their loading lactation. Or from the truck stop to a restaurant to eat and back to the truck stop.
I own my truck. I live in Illinois and bought a new truck in Oklahoma. I don’t need a “carriers” permission to drive my old truck to Oklahoma to pick up my new one. There is no limit to legitimate “PC”!