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LOL I don't think the N900 owners have seen anything yet besides a bulky black brick that belongs to the national fail museum, your all daft.
The reason why N900 is winning is because they sell them in POORer regions whereas Palm only distribute to only a few countries, in all honesty N900 is no match to the Pre.
N900 forever!
It's better than all smartphones, and crappy things like iPad, the reason is simple, it's neither a smartphone, nor a crappy thing for Apple to get money from!
N900 rocks!
N900 !!! you are great. i like you.
Doesn't it sound great when there are multiple phones for HTC, multiple phones for Blackberry, multiple phones for even Apple in the competition, but only One Nokia fone (N900) that beats them all to reach the finals?? :) :)
Roxxx !!!
I like nokia so nokia it s the best like a stone
I swallow HARD!
I like Nokia N900 much
I like Nokia N900 :)
NOKIA N900 ftwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is to John Ward, you clearly dont own the n900 it has all those features and more. results speak for themselves no need to argue anymore.
n900 is packed with so much hardware and great OS its only drawback is Nokia seems to be letting it go, and focusing on other stuff like what to buy with all our money we spent on the n900.
This just showed how ignorant you are... Please dont comment if you dont know anything between the two phones. Thank You.
No MMS Support
No Portrait Mode
No Contact Ringtone
Poor Phone Functionality
Poor Keyboard Layout
Poor GPS
No global search engine within the phone/tablet
Horrible UI menu screen (no back button from the menu screen)
It’s either a very bulky smartphone in honor of the 80’s or a very tiny tablet that just happens to have a few phone functions in it.
I think that consumers aren’t looking for a Nokia N900 when they are shopping for a cell phone. We still call in a cell PHONE.
Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it, Palm Pre!
N900 Rocks!
You can beat Nokia but you can never beat MAEMO...
This became a battle of community and who love their devices, im not gonna put down palm pre you guys do what you do but dont generalized nokia phones, symbian and maemo are in a really different league...
We can customized almost anything in our device from icons, put fonts we like, even battery life...
One more thing i bet you cant put your apps, shortcut,contacts, widgets and bookmarks pixel by pixel on your desktop cause no other cellphones can yet...
We want freedom and maemo gives us that...
WE WON THE COMPETITION : KING OF SMARTPHONES - N900
n900 is just like a mini PC, web browsing is awesome, maemo OS just rocks, i dont think there will be any good OS than this for this year.
the pre win r u for real iv used the pre for work and i handed it to my boss and laoghed in his face.the pre is for one not even stilesh and too ur restricted to ur carriers setting what they say u can do with it.if u ask me the n900 has way more to offer for one the over clocking were u can set how fast u want ur prossesor to run and two the gizmodo stats of hand on acual fact of the stats n900 has pre beat in over 80 percent of its capabilitys.if u dont believe me check for ur self compare there stats at gsm areana and compare it u will be surprised.besides the n900 is unlocked thats right no hidden fees.and no restrictions to what u search on the web or download like for instance a bootleg movie from torrent sites can ur pre do that no couse sprint wont let u veiw thos sites and pre cant do it not capable.
> Perhaps we should have started out on opposite sides of the grid to battle it out in the final?
:-)
The both communities seem to be quite the same: active and funny.
Whoever wins this battle: will the other side support the winner going against the others?
;-)
palm webos is really a step beyond, why do nokia and the like not just understand it ?
N900 should beat Pre easily. No question about it. Go N900!!!
N900 has everything: multitasking, linux, keyboard, fm-radio, fm-transmitter, flash, flashlight, big display, overclocking from terminal, apps, everything!!!
N900 SIMPLY THE BEST, PALM PRE IS A FRIEND OF THE BEST
i love N900,N900 number one^^
From reading the comments about this poll posted by both user groups, WebOS and Maemo 5, I'd say that we probably have a lot in common, we'd probably get on well down the pub and end up being best mates. You Palm Pre users are saying exactly the same things about WebOS as we are about Maemo 5 and the N900. I am certain that my N900 does have better hardware (in almost every respect) but that the two OS's are reasonably well matched, with fantastic user community support on both sides. Perhaps we should have started out on opposite sides of the grid to battle it out in the final?
that's why I asked if the N900 is available in North America. It's hard to play with it if I can't get it. But, the same is true going the other way. Have you spent any time with a Pre and the amazing homebrew capabilities?
webOS is to phones what OSX was to PCs. way ahead of it's time. you should check it out.
To be fair, the n900 is way ahead of the Pre, this is just about a war of forums i'd say. If you look at functionality and the actual operating system: Maemo>WebOS.
Anyone thats played with an n900 for a decent amount of time would know that.
WebOS is not just an OS, it's a phenomenon. Accessible Linux and Java-based code with GNU licensing + active homebrew community making its own apps and patches = amazing capability already in hand and virtually unlimited potential. I can already do almost everything I have ever thought to do on a smart phone and am daily trolling the thousands of preware apps finding new things that had never occurred to me. It rocks to be running my pre as a WiFi hotspot for my laptop and wireless printer on the road, and to control the music playing throughout my home while sitting on the back patio. It also rocks to not be dependent on the service provider or Palm to approve apps or charge fees for stuff the community can do for itself. I'm happy to stay with a Palm Pre Plus for years, but I suspect there will be another generation of WebOS (if not Palm) hardware that will tempt me.
Not only that, the Pre was the first one with the jailbreak on it.
3D Gaming on the Pre is better than any other phone I've tried. The interface is so simple and perfect, so incredibly useful. Plus, it's still the only phone that actually lets you run more than one app simultaniously. Android OS? Faked. iOS? Faked! None of them let backgrounded apps have free reign like an actual computer ,and battery life is still quite comparable!
Palm botched the build quality (I still have my launch-day Sprint pre, but I know many who have been through 6 or more!) and the marketing was the WORST I've even seen, hands down. If they hadn't been, you N900 fans would probably be singing a much different tune these days. Here's hoping the new hardware is up to par. webOS 2.0 is going to rock, regardless. My vote is for the Pre and always will be.
jailbreaking the ps3 has also ben done with the pre.
*yawn
N900 just has THE killer feature against PRE : PSFreedom, to jailbreak your PS3.
Nokia N900 is simply great and awesome. Its software and its features/specification can really make you go crazy in excitement. Its just above the league of phones but rather can be called THE_BEST phone/minicomputer. Pre users should try N900 and they will surelly confess that it is truelly the best.
WebOs FTW! My Pixi doesn't compare at least on paper to all the new smartphones being released today, yet it's still a great phone because it has an awesome OS. I can wait a few more months Palm. Your new hardware is going to be amazing, especially with WebOs 2.0!
I've had my Pre since day one on the Sprint network. It's OS is simply awesome. I've looked at and tried some of these other Smartphones but for ease of use and doing the things the way I like to do them, the Pre keeps me satisfied. Even though it's well over a year old. I have to have the ability to have multiple cards open to spots I reference frequently and quickly and easily flip between them. No other OS makes this as easy as Palm's WebOS. The PreCentral and Homebrew community and apps have provided me with most everything I need from a smartphone. I'm amazed that more people haven't tried the Pre or switched over to Sprint. I guess real VALUE isn't important to people any more. They'd rather pay more for less I guess. They buy into all the marketing hype than comparing and checking things out for themselves. I get tired of all the Droid /Google phones and how there's a new one out every 3 months to make the one you just bought obsolete already. My Pre will easily last me until a better WebOS Phone comes along.
no way that the Pre has sold more units than the Nokia. Not even close. It's just that Pre users are really passionate because webOS is really that good. You should consider that the best reason to give it a try. It's just amazing, and the homebrew community is like nothing you have ever seen. The webOS user community is small, but mighty.
do you want to know why palm pre will win ? Then you have to KNOW palm Pre. To find out more about palm pre...go to webosroundup.com
this is not turning ut to be the best smartphone poll, but the smartphone that has the most users.
You just proved my point. Palm screwed up the marketing of the Pre as bad as any phone ever launched. And the hardware certainly is not that of an iPhone. But ooh la la, once you try webOS... you never go back. Seriously, it's that good.
Sales numbers say little about quality of phone and a lot about quality of marketing, social conceptions of quality of phone, and so on.
Though if I wanted to be a dick I assure you, there would easily be markets where the N900 did great in sales numbers, or, for that matter, where the Pre failed horribly. This proves what about either of the device's qualities?
Waving off the N900's good points (some of which I think are trivial, and I personally wouldn't say they make for a good smartphone; I'm not the type to go and say "it's got an IR transmitter, FM receiver and transmitter, etc. Beat that") with a rhetorical question about sales figures is frankly horrendously flawed in so far as logical arguments go.(Though based on what I've read I'd say the N900 didn't do that badly in the American markets - though Nokia is typically silent on sales figures.)
If you think that WebOS makes for almost-the-same, same, or better versatility, or significantly better UI and/or usability or anything else that holistically makes the Pre a better smartphone, then make those points, if you actually care for intelligent discussion.
And how many N900 devices have been sold in North America?
Does the Droid have an IR transmitter, any android phone?!?! The Pre?!?!? Don't think so... Any Droid phone with flash support?!?!? Not unless they're running Froyo... Video out capabilities?!?!? The N900 has it all...
Whether or not it beat phones that are better than the N900, or "Nokia" (not sure if you mean the N900 or all of Nokia products collectively), is, frankly, a somewhat opinion-based appraisal. Also, if we're talking about these votes specifically, as opposed to other votes out in the cell-phone-related-websites out there (which is not an online scene I frequent regularly), then that's not necessarily a good cross section of people using the N900 vs people using the Pre.
I would argue the N900 is pretty much superior at the non-end-user side of things. Which, I would argue, defines a good smartphone just as much as it defines a computer. But that's me being rather hopeful, and certainly isn't in line with what the average end-user would like.
I won't claim I know enough about the Pre to truly make this claim, but the N900 is remarkably versatile, and trumps most other, if not all, smartphones out there in everything other than out-of-the-box realization of it's potential. Now, depending on the user in question, that can be anywhere from best-device-ever appraisal, to frustrated dislike and condemnation there-of.
You just described the Droid, and the Pre bet that. Ever try webOS? I'ts really, REALLY amazing.
Beat phones that are much better than Nokia?!?! Seems you've never used a Nokia N-series internet tablet before...
The N900 can: Be a GPS (Geocaching, mapping, navigation, trasnmit this data to your friends), be a phone, browse the net better than a netbook can, be a TV IR remote control, be a Bluetooth controller for... just about anything, Do video Skype, Be an MP3 player complete with FM transmitter, Take photos and Video as well as most digital cameras, respond to you waiving you hand over the screen, Play back Video better than most netbooks, secure shell to your Linux box, Be a plumb or level (accelerometers, yeah I know most phones have 'em now), do spreadsheets and word processing, be configured to change its interface according to a schedule, 3D games, etc., etc. etc.
I'm sure the Pre can do a lot,... but the N900 can do more of it, and do it better.
Keep in mind that the Pre has never lost one of these "votes" before. It's beat phones that are much better than Nokia...
I think the Pre is losing because the Pre is somewhat less popular than the more common iStuff and Android devices, which means it's basically Palm fans / Palm Pre users, vs Nokia fans / N900 users. While it may or may not have a bigger following as the N900, the N900 has a certain endearing factor to those who do like it, so you probably have many loyal N900 fans, and not so many loyal Palm fans, even if the actua total satisfied user amount is similar. As in, those people who like the N900 tend to fall in love with it. Not too many people do like it, but those that do are almost guaranteed to feel strongly about it. I respect the Palm Pre for it's general openness of OS and other positive aspects, but I don't know if it creates the same endearment in the majority of it's users.
KING OF SMART PHONES = NOKIA N900
how can the Pre be doing as well as it is when its against the N900
How could the Pre be losing? It's never lost one of these "votes" before. It's an amazing phone, and you can use it in either hand.
I'm asking all my iPhone lemming -I mean users - to vote for the Pre. Thank you.