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nice poll result .... bring it on ;)
i vote for exo PC
Yes keep it civil @shoop
sorry, meant Flash in my last post. not java. i was writing java code while i posted this. sorry.
NO FLASH!!! -- Sorry for my bad english --
I bought an iPad for my girlfriend a year ago and she complain a lot about FLASH!!!
She prefer his old huge laptop because she can browse web without condition and do her excel (iPad are not powerfull an-off...)
So she just use the iPad for play one game... and for kid but it's not really an activities, soo the iPad are used for Pad...
No way I will buy iPad 2 at all with a new MAGNIFIC and INCREDIBLE camera in front and a MAGICAL SD slot....Sorry but I'm bored about their speech.....
I'm a mac power user and I don't understand Apple to restrict their client just for keep control on their profit (apps)
I already preorder a Exopc for 2 thing, I really need a ultra portable for JOB, and encourage a little company where I never seen a preoccupation like that to their client before.
I am extremely curious to see the reception of Exopc on the market.
Bravo Exopc!!!!
Java is not Flash. I know you're shilling for your oversized Ipod Touch, but try to keep your excuses for inadequacy straight.
We all know that ipad doesn't support java but what you don't hear is that almost every website that you can think of and use(including videos) support html5. So most every website that supports java, also supports html5. So iPad not supporting java, is not a big deal at all.
@dos Personally I think too many website rely to much on flash, but that is neither here nor there. The fact is they do so I agree it makes no sense for a device not to have it.
@Everyone - The iPad is a good device if you have the extra cash to blow on a very limited portable device. A Windows slate like the ExoPC fulfills the needs of those of us that need a lot more out of a portable devices than pretty toys.
@bovril1a - Not to be rud, just some advice. You really need to break up your posts into paragraphs in the future it was too painful to read as one huge paragraph.
@Zorro, http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
iPad does not support flash. bugs me when people try telling me i am wrong with a crappy reference. the link is straight from Steve Jobs. Apple anything doesnt support flash
@dos @Matt_Patt Actually, Apple does support Flash on the iPad: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20015954-264.html I'm an ExoPC supporter, but it bugs me when people give their support without doing their research.
What it all boils down to is phone os vs full os. Which is more appropriate for a slate?
To me it can be either - but then it all depends on price. If the ipad was say $300-350 then it would make more sense. Android slates are coming at $200-$400 (except the overpriced samsung tab). I sincerely hope the ipad follows suit and lowers the price. It has had its monopoly over this new generation of slates and now it is time to get reasonable. I'd take a free one but i'd also consider a $300-350 one. At $535-1000 no way.
The poll then makes more sense - do you want something more (exopc) or will you prefer a lower priced, less capable product (ipad)? As it stands the exopc blows the ipad away in terms of features, specification and functionality.
I would like to have both :-)
The Exo has an HDMI port - that makes it a way more functional for me
We will have die hard iPad fans and die hard ExoPC fans, nature of the beast.
The point is simple, the two machines are at best superficially similar as they are aimed to fit in two very different sections of the user continuum with SOME overlap.
The iPad as with most Apple products is well designed, well thought out andhas been built to do certain specific tasks well with an intuitive interface. It was designed with a touch screen interface in mind and applications etc are (in general) consistent in touch and feel throughout. It is primarily a media consumption device with some other functions
It also fits in Apples view of the world where the environment is locked down, you are not allowed to use your property the way you want and innovation outside of the Apple environment is actively discouraged. This is both a strength and a weakness and is the way Apple has always worked. If you don't want to push the envelope then you will never see the bars nor miss them.
It's a nice piece of kit but the patronizing makes me gag.
The ExoPC is built on a Wintel platform with all the fun and games we have come to "love" that that entails. You will need to apply patches and updates more often than you would like, you will be more aware of potential malware issues and the O/S can bloat real fast without due diligance. It is a PC which also does media consumption well.
It also has an incredibly rich application ecosystem and if it can run on Windows it almost certainly will run on the ExoPC (usual caveats about to the limits of storage, RAM and processor).
Win 7 is far BETTER at touchscreen that previous versions but was not built from the ground up for touchscreen so there will be compromises, which is where the ExoPC UI comes into play.
The main difference from an iPad is that you can adapt the machine with ease and little pain. if it connects, it probably has a USB port in one model or another, want to really multitask....out of the box, want to develop in whatever language you want...go for it, dual boot Linux, no problems and so on.
It also means that those apps that weren't or aren't touch screen friendly will need workarounds like the ExoPC UI
iPad of ExoPC....both have some compromise, both have different strengths and weaknesses, you pick the one that will address your NEEDS.
I have a range of specific needs outside of simple media consumption, some work, some pleasure so for me the ExoPC ticks more items than the iPad and I have one on order, would I refuse a free iPad...hell no.
oh yes and people want ios on a tablet because ... well there have been no alternatives for 6+ months. Things are changing and for the better. Bring on the Win 7 slates and we'll see what people really want. Even android - the cheaper slightly less limited alternative to the ipad - cheaper and does the same things and added advantages like good file access, connectivity, extra storage options, proper gps, cameras, video calls, multi-tasking 1080p. Ipad owners have little to stand on except having a head start. Heck I have one because of the head start ... but now i will be changing!!!
@Matt_Patt and the rest
It is not that the ipad doesn't do some things well and sure it has weaknesses that are not a big deal for some people. The point of the win 7 slate is that it does what the ipad does BETTER and still does much more as it is a full os.
For instance watching movies - wouldn't you prefer to watch on a bigger screen, wide screen , higher resolution and the fact that the movies on an ipad won't fill the whole screen for a lot of movies.
Or the web - yes there are apps for netflix or workarounds but with the exopc you get it all - flash, choice of the best browsers out there, faster youtube etc. No complications at all - now that is what I call "simplicity"
And then full access to the file system - sure if it is meant for a 5 year then restrict the user but come on the ipad isn't meant to be for kids only.
your right. it doesnt support flash. but now almost every website is compatible with iPad. it runs it in some compatible flash-like thing. anyways, almost any website that has flash, will work on iPad. it just works. so the no flash thing is no big deal at all
IPad does not play flash. Period, zit, not, nada, at all!!
How can you imagin selling a "web" tablet without allowing the user surfing sites presinting flash modules... incomprehensible!!!
iPad should totally win this but it won't. especially since you'r on this website, you obviously are a pc fan. as am i. the ipad is so much more than just a toy. it's a tool. i use it at school, at the airport, coffee shops. it's the huge portability and the endless app options that make this product great. it does indeed have some major drawbacks such as no camera/video, or multitasking. it's pure simplicity f*$k-up proof operating system and ease to use is what everyday people want. the iOS, for some reason, is what the people want. everyday people want simplicity, apple delivered.
@LAPTOPMAG will have a review unit soon. We work hard to meet the expectations. We are confident but remain totally focused. A product we are waiting for is always better than a product available everywhere - we know that.
J'aimerai avoir une correspondance en français marci.
ExoPC should win this hands down. For the same amount of money you get a full fledged PC with tons of apps and much more functionality and no limits that you have with an operating system for cell phones,
@Kevin
Did you do any research before you posted? The ExoPC has quite a few video demonstrations from users and reviewers, so if you want to see it in action, you can. The UI is very simple, and I believe there are a couple demos with kids trying out the device. Just YouTube "ExoPC" and you'll find a lot of information. This is not a vaporware product, it's not as well-known as an iPad, but it's not vaporware.
@Arnulfo
So, you're in favor of longer batter usage over better usability? The iPad is a very streamlined product, no multi-tasking, no hardware expansion, and no video. The ExoPC may not have GPS in its default state, but it can be upgraded to have GPS and 3G, whereas with the iPad you're stuck with what you buy and have no option for long-term usage. But, you get a few more hours of time to play with it... great. I'm sure it's worth it.
I voted for the exopc, but I still think this matchup makes no sense. The two products are completely different. the iPad is really cool, and I have a lot of fun with it. But I can't use it for work, and it doesn't work with my home system. It's a great toy, I'd even go so far as to say the coolest gadget to come along in a very long while.
But I don't need another gadget. I need an ultra-portable windows 7 pc that I can use to play ALL my home media, read and reply to my work email, orgainze my music and my photos and connect to my other media devices without having to jump through hoops.
Oh, and I like to skype with my birthmother in Holland. I can't do that with an iPad.
iPad should win this match... its lighter, it has GPS, twice the battery as the EXOPC and much more!
Apple iPad should win, not because of all the facts I previously mention, it should win because iPad won't let you down in a busy day away from home (or at least away from a power outlet).
It's not vaporware. I have already bought one!
*it being the exoPC
It's NOT Unproven. If you were to read any tech site, blog, portal, Yahoo.com, you'd see it's potential and that it's NOT vaporware.
How can you pit a product already on the market with something that could wind up as vaporware - especially one with a completely new, unproven UI that no one has any experience on. Bizarre.