Is the UK government right to prevent immediate public access to the 1921 Census under the 100 year rule?

52 Comments

  • Dave Endermell - 2 years ago

    It should have been released early but we will have to wait until 6 Jan 2022 sadly. However a more shocking aspect is that Find My past are charging users 3.50 per page to view it (or 2.50 if you view the transcription which seems the wrong way round as you should surely pay more to view the transcription as it involves more work than just scanning it). That is outrageous and I for one will wait until the 1921 census is included in an ordinary FMP search package. I have over 100 people to look up, with their charges that will cost me 350 pounds!

  • Andrew Hawton - 2 years ago

    The arguments against releasing the data miss a very important point. There are already many people who did not trust the government to keep the data confidential in the 2021 census. To release the data early would give credence to the kind of conspiracy theory which says that the census is just to spy on us. 100 years was intended to ensure that almost everyone on the records would have died. With so many people living to 100+ there is an argument (which I don't hold to) that it should be extended to 2031!

  • Alan Mitchell - 3 years ago

    I am now in my 74th year and am attempting to complete, in the little time left to me, the family tree which my elder sister started before she passed away. I am the last of my male line, I have no children to carry on this task and have no idea if nephews or nieces would be bothered. I'm sure there are others in a similar situation who would be denied the opportunity to fill the gaping holes in their recent family history that they wish to record before their voice and memories are silenced by time. There is obviously a growing number of people who are interested in their ancestry and are frustrated by this now anachronistic 100 year rule that hides names, addresses, dates and family members from their sight. Many of the cons listed above when considered carefully are weak arguments and do not stack up. The 100 rule could easily be reduced to 80 or even 75 without inconveniencing too many people; any particularly sensitive information could be redacted.

  • Martin Maguire - 3 years ago

    The options in your poll make no sense to me. The second option says “amend the rule”, but we are not asking for the rule to be amended. The 1921 census should be available after 100 years (I.e. June 2021}
    When I was at school 1921 + 100 = 2021.
    So why do we have to wait an extra year. I’m very frustrated and annoyed.

  • Sandy - 3 years ago

    If the 1921 Census was taken in June 1921 then surely 100 years on from that date is June 2021!
    Isn't Scotland releasing theirs in June 2021?
    This means a lot to people like myself who are desperate to fill gaps in their lives. I'm trying to find out who my Grandfather - who the other quarter of me is. Please, please release the Census in June 2021.

  • Lynn - 3 years ago

    As it was taken on the 19th June 1921, then if you apply the 100 year rule then i think it should be released on the 20th June 3021 ????

  • Edward Seville - 3 years ago

    As a 73 year old (only child) conducting my full (past/present) family history research and knowing a lot of anecdotes of the family who moved around including overseas in the early 1900's & immediate post WW1 it is important for me to leave as much known and proven family history as possible for my current children and grandchildren who will probably not show real interest until such time as I am dead and unable to answer any questions. Of course they will still have some research to do themselves but my leaving proven facts will ease their own research.
    I also wish at my given age to know immediately more about my own parents post WW1 as it is now too late for me to ask them directly -------- I resent the Government denying me this opportunity to conduct my own personal family archive research as I get significantly older particularly as I am still mobile and can get to places to see & photograph salient information such as old home addresses many of which have already been demolished whilst others could disappear by the time this census is released. I vote - Reslease the information. now !!!

  • Fred Hogg - 3 years ago

    Some of people wanting to see the 1921 census will not be here in 2022.
    If we can't see the census now, why not at least release it 19 June 1921

  • Claire Vincent - 3 years ago

    I think should be released early as we are having a horrible year with Covid so give us family tree enthusiasts something to be happy about

  • carol - 4 years ago

    my mum has been trying to find out any info on her mum for years with no luck, she passed away when mum was very young and her father passed away when she was a teenager so she doesnt have much info on her family. she is 87yrs young atm so she would dearly love to find out about her mum "before its too late"

  • DJ - 4 years ago

    How many born in 1921 are still alive to complain. If they can release 1939 why not 1921. Understand the law but logically it's a ridiculous argument for census information. Since when has any government concerned themselves about breaking a promise they made to us

  • Joan Wood - 5 years ago

    I like many other older persons forming their family tree am over 75, and I am desperately wanting to know where my family members where is 1921, especially my father who was with a family [nurse boy] not his mother, as shown in 1911 census, but have no idea where he was after that.
    I don't understand what the problem is to releasing this census early. I was under the impression that it would be available 2021 now I read that it could be 2022, I only hope that I can survive this long.
    I guess that the voters who are saying 'NO' are not interested in where there ancestors came from.
    So I join the 87.19% who say please release it soon.
    J. Wood
    AUSTRALIA

  • Dennis R Thompson - 5 years ago

    If the number of those confirming that the census of 1921 should be released before 1922 couid grow to 100,000 or more then it has to be discussed in Parliament. One could say that at the current time with Brexit still getting in the way Parliament has better things to do but on the other hand if the 1921 census was released then our MP's would not be barraged to act on our behalf, their flock. Does anyone know how many people will be 100 or over between 2019 and 2022?

  • B Hardyman - 5 years ago

    Why not release it now. With the two future years census not available it seems futile to delay issue for many family historians, and others who are eager to add valuable to family trees etc. If like me you have been unable to locate some members of your family on the 1911 census it would be great help to fill in the missing information.

  • Karen Clarke - 5 years ago

    Its so unfair to those of us who are trying to track their family tree. All my relatives have died, I have no one to ask and it is extremely upsetting and frustrating as well as being costly. There is no reason for the 1921 census to be released on 2020 - release it now please!! Its just a con, IF in another two/three years time I am still looking for my family, I will have to take another subscription.

  • Kay J - 5 years ago

    Data Protection doesn't apply to the dead so why are we fussing about releasing the 1921 census? The 1939 census is available but Ancestry researchers are often frustrated by the lack of important demographic details for the intervening period. I just hope I last another three & a half years ????

  • iris dempster - 5 years ago

    I Don.t see what all the fuss is about not opening the 1921 census iv been trying to do my Ancestry i all ways get a brick wall as my dad is not on the 1911 as he was born after it but hes on the 1939 census but only he married my mom i have been looking for him for 25 years i might not be around for the 2O2O census as im turning 75 soon my brother has all ready died so i dont see the PROBLEM with it i dont think anyone dose ether

  • Terri Brand - 6 years ago

    I agree with Brenda's comment, It could be released early with the same safeguards as the 1939 Register: details hidden on people under a hundred years old until a death is recorded, with details released once that happens. The information I want from the 1921 Census is ref my maternal grandfather, grandmother and their children, which my mother is one of them and they have all passed away already, so no problem with the 100 year ruling for me. It does seem so ridiculous to deprive information from people/researchers taken from a long time ago when there are banks and websites being breached on a daily basis. I can't see what the fuss is all about, get it released.

  • Tj - 6 years ago

    Unfortunately we now live within an era where confidentiality is breached on a daily basis. In general anyone can find out sensitive information just by turning on the computer , it’s a ridiculous law and needs reviewing.
    This Goverment needs to focus on regulating companies that freely sell sensitive information to others in this present day, and not deprive the public from information taken many years ago, which in retrospect is stopping researches finding long lost family members as in my own case.

  • James Cullen - 6 years ago

    I'm currently 74 years old. I was born in 23 Cape Street Belfast, Northern Ireland June 26, 1944. Last year, 2017 I started doing my family tree on Ancestry.ca so as to record as much information on my family roots as I possibly could while I still can. The release of the 1921 census information would greatly help me in furthering that quest. I would really hope that some of my grandchildren and possible their children and beyond would be able to access my history and i can rest in peace knowing that I did my best to help.

    The government can really help as well by releasing the 1921 census now rather than later when so many of us will be gone.

  • Kay - 6 years ago

    I was left without my dad (born abt 1910) at the age of sixteen
    My mother had already gone two years prior
    I was to young to ask questions about family, and not having relations around me I have been left in the dark about my fathers family as he was borne in either England or Canada, both part of The British Commonwealth at the time
    The Canadian 1921 Census is available on line
    Why is the English 1921 Census not available ?
    My grown children wish to know more about their family line, to pass onto their children

  • Sue Morgan - 6 years ago

    My mum is 83 yrs old, Born in 1935, her mother died in 1937 after an operation, she was left with a father that didn’t really want her and threatened her with the railway orphanage in Woking and even took her there to visit, her grandmother raised her (fathers mother unusually), her father remarried and she then had a step mother who also didn’t really want her and made her young life a misery, we know her mother was in service the missing link is the 1920’s census so we can finally know where she was, how she met her father etc, 2022 is a long way off for all of us but for the elderly people out there it’s closure for them, it should be released, why can they release the 1939 census before the 1920’s census it makes no sense, just red tape and clap trap! They flout the rules when it suits and decide to ignore certain conditions when they want to so why can’t they do it for this ? It may not be important to them but it’s paramount to others! ????????

  • Philip Duffey - 6 years ago

    All I want to know is where my 8 year old father was living in 1921 his mum died in 1917,I cannot see why that would be a problem,if I was American I would know as I believe they are up to 1940 census,can I last another 4 years,lets hope so.

  • clive wyatt - 6 years ago

    i'm in aussie and would like to trace my grandmother before I croke . just do it before our culture is gone.

  • Margaret Scott - 7 years ago

    I am 71, by the time 2022 comes I may be dead and so my family tree will be unfinished!

  • Rhonda Marie Kennedy - 7 years ago

    honestly, how many 96 year old's are there over there???
    Just do what they did for the 1939, so the rest of us can get our family's info.

  • Brenda - 7 years ago

    It could be released early with the same safeguards as the 1939 Register: details hidden on people under a hundred years old until a death is recorded, with details released once that happens.

    If a family history site were prepared to do this work in order to gain publication rights prior to 2022, both it and family historians would gain, without breaching confidentiality of living persons.

    Why is this not being proposed? Or, if it is, what is the government's response?

  • susanne - 7 years ago

    I'm 67 and have been tracing my family ancestry for awhile I'm stuck on information from the 1910 and 1939 censers so 1921 censers would confirm and hopefully fill in many gaps in my family history ,I want to contact family while I can ,the 1921 censer should be released it makes no sense not to .
    I think a lot of folk will be gone and not know who are there relatives .
    I think most people want to create a family tree to pass on to this generation so they don't forget where they come from and who they are ,its important very important
    Just get on with it ................

  • MALCOLM DIAMOND - 7 years ago

    Don't see the big deal. All Census records are just a list of people, ages, occupation. The information apart from the thrill of seeing their names written in those times, there is not much else. It does not tell you who these people are or were. It gives no life experiences of these people. It doesn't tell you what they found funny or sad. They are just lists. I find it absurd in 2017, that a 100 year rule that came into force in the 60s, applies to records from the 20s. What makes it more of a mockery is that the 1939 prewar record has already been released. Ive been researching my family tree for more than 2 years. All the 1921 Census record will do for me is just confirm they were still living at the places I've already tracked them at. Just release them...

  • marion gregory - 7 years ago

    The majority of geneologists are elderly and fear they wont be around to complete their searches. As the 31 and 41 are none excisting release the 21 census so we can find completion.

  • marion gregory - 7 years ago

    The majority of geneologists are elderly and fear they wont be around to complete their searches. As the 31 and 41 are none excisting release the 21 census so we can find completion.

  • Reyn Moonbat Stery - 7 years ago

    Don't release it. I have many ancestors yet to find but I would want their privacy respected for the required number of years. This 'must have everything now ' society is pitiful.

  • Andrew Corkett - 7 years ago

    Just a brief comment with no regard to the rights or wrongs of the early release of the 1921 census except to say that a lot of the addresses which will feature in the census now no longer exist. Also a great host of addresses exist now which did not exist in 1921. These two facts have a heavy impact on family searches, undertaken in the 1939 register, where one can get the anomaly of finding that a record (in the '39 register) is closed because someone is deemed to be still alive and still living in a non-existing address.

  • Karen Durkan - 7 years ago

    It may have been marked strictly private and confidential then, but even now we sign away our own info thinking also strictly private and confidential, only to find days later in my case a company contacting me due to my private and personal information being sold on, the government saying this ok to do. What is the difference??? And why is it that certain people are able to access records that are under this umbrella, adoption information? not all is freely available to the adopted person. watch family tracing programmes on tv, they have the access and who gave them that access?

    I now have to register a false mobile tel no so I don't get a junk call, unfortunately somebody out there will get it tho :(

  • Paul Spencer - 7 years ago

    The government promised it wouldn't be released. They also promised that data collected by the authorities would be protected and not passed on to other people and yet all our details are constantly being sold from one organisation to another. The law states it is illegal to hold data about anyone without their consent and yet information about every individual is open for all to see. I am 74, I may not be alive by 2022 and yet so many questions about my family the census could answer.

  • Hugh Clare-Talbot - 7 years ago

    I am 62 and I have spent the last 6 years researching my ancestors from the Norwich district. In 6 years time when the 1921 census records are released I will be 68 and I fear that there are cousins now that I may never get to meet, as my Grandfather left the area in the early 1900's for South Africa where just a small group of us are left. Without the 1921 census we will be unable to piece the rest of the puzzle together and find the rest of the family. Our concern is that many of them and or us may not be around then.

  • Tricia Hodgson - 7 years ago

    Release it! In reality, what information is actually given? Names, relationships, ages, profession, address. Not much really, considering I get cold calls informing me I used to have a mortgage with Nationwide and I may have paid PPI!

  • JANE COLCLOUGH - 8 years ago

    Please release the 1921 census, there are a lot of questions that we need answering, I have been researching our family history for a large number of years, my parents are 86 and would love to see where their family were living, occupations etc. Please release before they pass regards Jane Colclough.

  • Amy Archibald - 8 years ago

    Release the 1921 Census. Deceased people do not have privacy rights.

  • Doris Neilson - 8 years ago

    It would be great if the 1921 census could be released early.

    Perhaps the 100 year rule is too strict although many are living to a ripe old age nowadays. Would these people really care if their details were released early?? In these days of technology there is so much info about each and every one of us available already. Very little is private anymore so what's the problem with releasing the census early?

    Like many others the 1921 census would give me vital information on a side of my family I knew nothing about.

    I will be 70 this year and may not be around/mentally capable in 2021.

    Come on powers that be - release it soon.

  • Carol Yaciuk - 8 years ago

    Like a lot of people are saying that they might not be around by 2022, I feel the same way. I've been doing
    research for a number of years and a 1921 UK census would answer a lot of questions. I live in Canada but all my ancestors came from England and I would like to leave as much information as I can for my
    children. I really hope that this census is opened up. Thanks. Carol.

  • Doreen Griffiths - 9 years ago

    I have been doing my family tree for about 15 years but have questions that the 1921 census could answer. As all relatives who could have answered my questions have passed on I'm left with gaps which is so frustrating. As I'm an old person I probably won't be around in 1922 or possibly physically or mentally impaired. As I wanted to leave all my research to my children in a form that they can understand the 1921 census would be very useful.

  • Michael White - 9 years ago

    My wife is the youngest of 6 children..as her mum was in the later 40's when she was born..it meant in real terms she never knew her grandparents , either paternal or maternal...she is trying to build a family tree for our children ..now living in Australia...as she is now in her 64th year..most of her siblings have passed away and are unable to help with her lineage..it's sad that with the 100 year rule in place ..that she will be in her 70's before she can see anything after the 1911 census.....releasing those later ce nsus details can only be good ...My father was born in 1923..so I have absolutely no chance of seeing the 1931 census...as i'll be in my early 80's..it's crazy to have this in place...let's hope common sense prevails..and let us trace our families history...thank you ...I live in Australia too...which makes it harder to communicate with her older siblings..their is only one sister left over there ..she is in her late 70's and doesn't have a computer...let us search for our families..

  • Don Wright - 9 years ago

    AS THEY ARE ALL 94 YEARS OLD PLUS, DO THEY CARE. I am looking for a half brother born 1911 after the census. I never knew I had one until recently, but He's definitely been born, probably Married, May have had children; Most probably very dead and buried, and I didn't know of his existence, The release of the 1921 census might give me a clue as to whether he survived birth for ten years at the then family home.

  • J Mounce - 9 years ago

    I read the reasons against, and while I'm not convinced my one thought is, none of those reasons are going to go away in 2022. 100 years is an arbitrary number, is 93 years really all that more offensive?

  • Emily Davis - 9 years ago

    I could really do with the information from to 1921 census to establish some resettlement patterns and find out where some of my relatives are buried! There are no generations older than my 70 year old Father on his side left. The paperwork and photos we have left are, at best, sketchy and there is no one to ask.

    On my Mum's side it would establish that I am following the right genealogical line of my family! A lot of them went to both wars and never came home, but again, there is no one over a certain age to ask. :/

    I would also like to add, that if my ancestors are anything like me (and I was assured when I was younger that that was the case!) then I'm sure they would be as excited as me to connect across the years. I mean, what is 10 years? It's not like we're asking for the 1951, which would include my parents, though saying that - there are a number of people I know who would love to be able to trace deceased family members.

    Why can't they just digitise the census and then only release the information on those that have been deceased for, say, 20 years, or earlier with the permission of the family? It could be on the form for registering a death. The people in question really don't care - they're dead!

  • J. Palmer - 10 years ago

    I would love to see the 1921 census as this would solve a lot of problems in tracking down lost family members for my mother
    Sadly i don't think she will be around in 2021/2 when it is due for release.

  • Phil Rider - 10 years ago

    I am really interested in where my grandparents were living and what their occupations were, also my dad was born in 1920.It makes no sense to only release the 1921 census in eight years time. Typical of the establishment!

  • Carol Malivoire - 10 years ago

    While my sisters and I were all born in Australia all of our family were born in the UK and unless the 1921 Census is released I am unable to trace any of my relatives should they still be alive. Our step grandmother who is now 101 years old is still alive bless her however most have now all passed on and I do not know if we have any living cousins. I am 68 and as you can see to release the 1921 Census is paramount to my ancestry search before I, too, am deceased !

  • Andrew Brown - 10 years ago

    It is very frustrating when with the introduction of the internet and all the Genealogy sites available today that we can't access records from 1921. For people like myself trying to trace their family history information from 1921 is vital to be able to complete my family tree successfully. A lot of parents born in the 30's are still alive so that information can be obtained by word of mouth, but it is frustrating when ones family tree is full of holes between 1911 and 1931.

  • ellen hamilton - 11 years ago

    I am now 72, the youngest from a family of nine children. a few of my siblings have now died. The eldest is now 90 years of age, has dementia, I am struggling to find my ancestors. Therefore it would be a great help to me if the 1921 census where released now. What is the problem? I may not be around in 2022, or unable to search records.

  • ellen hamilton - 11 years ago

    I am now 72 from a family of nine children. a few of my siblings have now died. The eldest is now 90 years of age, has dementia, I am struggling to find my ancestors. Therefore it would be a great help to me if the 1921 census where released now. What is the problem? I may not be around in 2022.

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