AMD drivers not supported & being told I can't use paid for software on 12.10 forced me back to 12.04.
Herp - 11 years ago
Since Being for Ed to use Unity I've switched to Lubuntu and never looked back. Initially I thought Unity might evolve into something decent, but it just sucks.
peter - 11 years ago
I stay with Xubuntu 1004 because of the ext4 kernel issue for kernel >3.4 Otherwise Xubuntu 1210 is nice looking, but has too many issues. Even the LTS throws errors every second day, so IMHO Precise is far from being rockstable. Consider to switch to Debian 7 XFCE. Cheers.
NoUnity4Me - 11 years ago
I was happy with 11.04 with xfce - till end of life. Then I tried 12.04 in a test partition.
Sorry, I know you are trying to make a great os, but I just cannot abide Unity. It slows me down.
I hacked out unity, the overlay scroll bars, and the appmenu, and installed xfce. Great. Simple. Clean. Much more human. Can't see any new feature in 12.10 that would change that. The hacked 12.04 has become my default.
beek59 - 11 years ago
GimX doesn't work correctly under Unbuntu 12.04 . So i'm using Ubuntu 11.10 .
buddy rogers - 11 years ago
i updated the ubuntu is too unstable to use but the gnome works great
Asoka Dissanayake - 11 years ago
Upgrading as soon as the new release was made available may not be a wise step, from the past experience. There may be many things that you have to sort out; default programs may have changed. It is still fresh and hot from the oven and so it is better to wait for a couple of weeks to see how those who have upgraded are doing. Generally an upgrade means changes of packages and that would involve a lot of troubleshooting and many visits to launchpad.net for bug fixes and workarounds.
It's more stable then 12.04 lts ... everything works fine .. in my opinion it's better the the lts
Gordon - 11 years ago
Been using Ubuntu since 8.04. Have always moved on with each new release. FOr previous 2 had used the upgrade path, this time did a clean install. Now boting and running much quicker.
Had also been given a second hand atom basd netbook, initially ran that on Jolicloud but seeing how much faster 12.10 seemed tried it on the netbook, runs nicely and the unified unity does appear to deliver as promised. Using it right now typing this.
B. Ross Ashley - 12 years ago
Updated to Xubuntu 12.10; had a little trouble finding the link to the Ubuntu 1 client, it turns out Xubuntu now puts it in Settings and I can't move it to my kicker or toolbar. And Firefox keeps telling me it has crashed when I close it.
TheFu - 12 years ago
:New: is the enemy of :stable:
Most machines here are on 10.04 still and a few are running 8.04.
ste - 12 years ago
couldn't wait to upgrade cause compiz ate 50% of my cpu (problem with fglrx). it consumes less cpu now, although still not very performant, and wlan doesn't work anymore. the distro is still far away of being a serious competitor of win and mac, unfortunately.
I am waiting for bug fixes and for fogger to be ready before I upgrade. I use fogger app everyday so for now I can't upgrade.
Endomancer - 12 years ago
Upgraded the laptop from 12.04 tp 12.10, love the new features, detest how slllllllooooooowwwww it is.
Desktop is still running 11.10 until you guys fix the damn problem of the OS giving Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controllers the silent treatment >_
Ramandeep - 12 years ago
My vote > No plans to upgrade from 12.04 anytime soon
Tora Kuat - 12 years ago
I have been using Ubuntu since 9.04. Actually I convince almost all of my colleagues (20+ persons), to use Ubuntu since 2009. It just works mostly. We are able to do our jobs as usual and have no virus problem since then. Upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 was smooth, and I have been patient with Unity. I think it is productive now to use Unity. Ubuntu should stress more to users to use Alt key to evoke Head Up Display (HUD), where (in supposed later to be in all application), we need to type a few letters, like PRI, then Ubuntu detect we would like to print.
Another key, is the super (Window) key, which will evoke the Dash, where we can also type a few letter, for example Th to show Thunderbird. This is definitively productive.
Try also Ctrl+ superkey +Left or Right Arrow, to resize current window to half of the screen size. I use it a lot to work with two documents, right and left of my screen.
I miss the emblemize of folder in Nautilus though. It helps to quickly fish out a folder out of ocean of folders. I have to compromise with Bookmarking the folder.Still miss the emblemize.
Alejandro - 12 years ago
I upgraded on the weekend for both at home and work. I was noticing that animations were very slow when comparing with 12.04. It was not until OMG Ubuntu's article, that I found out that this was on purpose. So I fine tuned all my usual customizations and it works very well, I have not had an issue with compiz breaking up every once in a while like it did with 12.04 on my work computer. So overall, it feels more stable and solid.
Sakimori_X - 12 years ago
I had borked my 12.04 system's config some time ago, so decided to upgrade to 12.10 via a fresh install this past weekend. Within about two hours I had a fresh OS install and all my daily apps were back on the system and fully configured. Upgrading the wife's netbook (again, a fresh install) took all of about an hour. Overall pretty painless.
I will say I'm very disappointed with the webapps implementation. As it stands, I'm anxiously awaiting a 12.10-compatible release for Fogger (which I understand we should be seeing in about a month).
Ken - 12 years ago
Tried several clean installations using different nvidia cards with the same results. The drivers will not allow for native resolution or any change for that matter other than 800x600. I have gone back to 12.04.
Kjell Nilsson - 12 years ago
I've been using Ununtu since 4.10, uppgrading both hardware and ubuntu over the years - it has been a great experiance and fun.
My last pc was running 10.04 LTS then uppgraded to 12.04 LTS. As I assumed that there was no major diff from 12.04 to 12.10 I recently made made a uppgrade to 12.10.
It ran for a few days then it lost its root (/) - I don't know if my harddrive crashed or if it has do with the uppgrade.
So I just dont realy care. I purchased a new laptop with win 7. I run win7 now for a while, not instaling any Ubuntu versions as yet. I fell that the latest Ubuntu versions is realy a disapointment, the Ubuntu evolution is now days just to exprimental with Unituy, with just realy bad user interface - the left buttons are realy uggly too.
Its realy sad how this has been envolved.
Lets hope for somthing better.
/kjell
Julian Waller - 12 years ago
I installed it on one of my laptops. Both the nvidia and nouveau driver dont work with my gpu chip any more. Only fix is to downgrade half the os, or install 12.04. Time for a new laptop me thinks
Ali - 12 years ago
I upgraded and used unity for a day, it was terrible very buggy and slow. I've been trying to like unity but I can't.
Hdave - 12 years ago
I upgraded this morning and within an hour after was complete I really regretted having done so. The web apps implementation which I was eager to tryout is seriously broken. None of the bugs I really wanted to be fixed are fixed. And many new bugs have been introduced... For example compiz no longer supports different wallpapers on different workspaces. In 5 years of using Ubuntu this is the lamest upgrade yet.
I installed 12.10 64bit on a separate partition. The NVIDIA driver isn't working properly anymore. The resolution is wrong and can't be changed. I need to use the Nouveau driver which functions OK. Furthermore some programs can't be installed from their ppa like ubuntuone-indicator, classicmenu-indicator, weather-indicator (they can be installed from the 12.04 ppa though) and the imagebrowser Geeky crashes immediately after starting. I'm glad I still have my good working 12.04. I didn't test the rest till now.
Upgraded but it ran really slow. On both my amd and nvidia card computers, both not bad Systems . Amd 7950 tried every variant of driver and nvidia using open source driver and proprietary. Cpu was a core i5 and other core duo. Downgraded to 12.04. Will sick with 12.04 and only test new versions in virtual box Or on spare computers.
I updated my notebook as Beta2 came out and it works very well. But in 12.10 Bluefish has a bug so I can't use the tabulator-function anymore. This is crap, cause I need Bluefish every day.
On my desktop-pc I still use 12.04 and I have no plans to upgrade as long as Bluefish has this tab-bug in 12.10. My Mum's notebook also still uses 12.04.
As I had installed 12.04 on my notebook it booted in 4 secounds to the login-screen (SSD). Ubuntu 12.10 needs 10 secounds and sometimes even longer. This is a shame! No LTS = no speed on boot? As I am logged in Ubuntu works very fast. Nothing to complain. Only the boot-time sucks! By the way, the shutdown-time sucks too.
My advice: If you don't need the new functions in Ubuntu 12.10 stay on 12.04!
Xyverz - 12 years ago
I've upgraded at home, but not at work.
Rui Madaleno - 12 years ago
Update done ! This last update was a mess. ATI HD 2600 stop working, lost acess to X . Virtualbox stop working (Could not fix it yet).
Sorry ... this isn't the linux for humans i've been waiting for :(
Tedd - 12 years ago
IMO the way ubuntu is changing is a very bad one. I have 12.04 installed and after almost three good years of using ubuntu I'm thinking seriously about to switch to another distro.
Aang - 12 years ago
* doesn't offer...
koogee - 12 years ago
tried updating. unity refused to launch after login. no sound. promptly reinstalled 12.04.
Aang - 12 years ago
I have never found "upgrading" to be a painless process. I have since done fresh installs for all releases. I think 12.10 does offer all that much over 12.04. At least not enough for me to do a fresh install. I am a big fan of the latest LTS release! :-)
Derya - 12 years ago
12.10 is the worst Ubuntu!...10.04 was the fastest and the best
Simos Katsiaris - 12 years ago
P.s. amd drivers work fine for my on amd64 version with full amd/asus hardware
Simos Katsiaris - 12 years ago
I have been using it since beta 2, there is no better way to experience the new futures than this
emlodnaor - 12 years ago
I tried, but they removed the alternate iso, so, no option to install with RAID, also, some upgrade to X ended up completly messing up my 4-screen setup... multiple monitors and worse yet, multiple grapich cards is still a pain in the ass on linux :(
Running 12.04 with gnome clasic shell now... Will probarbly try again later, or wait for 13.04...
Lee - 12 years ago
A couple of things always hold me back - remote access over NX is a big one for me with the demise of Unity-2D + I have to use VMware Player to run a instance of a client's Development server environment and that seems to be broken until VMware updates its version.
The last upgrade broke my RAID settings and so I don't want to risk this time...
Yaron - 12 years ago
I'm using Gnome Shell on 12.04 (and love it), and I'm worried it will break on an upgrade.
By the way the new Gnome Remix introduces so many apps that I don't need/like, that it's not a good alternative. Besides, AFAIU you cannot upgrade directly from my Gnome Shell setup into the Remix.
Chris Darko - 12 years ago
@Alvise: I have an HD5770; the legacy drivers are not the solution.
The newest catalyst does not work with the newest X server, and the open source drivers do not work properly with my HDMI audio out.
12.04 it is for awhile, 12.10 has no new features worth using except uninstall from the dash to get rid of rubbish like gwibber and Ubuntu one.
Stian - 12 years ago
I've not been very impressed with 12.10 so far. None of the issues I had with 12.04 has been resolved. New issues have been introduced. Also, the feature I was looking forward to the most, webapps, has been implemented in such a way that I won't be using it (duplicated running icons + tab in webapp)!
All in all I love the features of Unity, the HUD, and everything else Ubuntu have done. It's just such a shame is let down by bugs, bugs and more bugs!!
Alvise - 12 years ago
This, http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html, probably can solve your problem with the AMD drivers. It work flawlessly, for me...
Chris Darko - 12 years ago
The AMD drivers do not support the latest x server, so I'm stuck on the LTS until they upgrade them.
AMD drivers not supported & being told I can't use paid for software on 12.10 forced me back to 12.04.
Since Being for Ed to use Unity I've switched to Lubuntu and never looked back. Initially I thought Unity might evolve into something decent, but it just sucks.
I stay with Xubuntu 1004 because of the ext4 kernel issue for kernel >3.4 Otherwise Xubuntu 1210 is nice looking, but has too many issues. Even the LTS throws errors every second day, so IMHO Precise is far from being rockstable. Consider to switch to Debian 7 XFCE. Cheers.
I was happy with 11.04 with xfce - till end of life. Then I tried 12.04 in a test partition.
Sorry, I know you are trying to make a great os, but I just cannot abide Unity. It slows me down.
I hacked out unity, the overlay scroll bars, and the appmenu, and installed xfce. Great. Simple. Clean. Much more human. Can't see any new feature in 12.10 that would change that. The hacked 12.04 has become my default.
GimX doesn't work correctly under Unbuntu 12.04 . So i'm using Ubuntu 11.10 .
i updated the ubuntu is too unstable to use but the gnome works great
Upgrading as soon as the new release was made available may not be a wise step, from the past experience. There may be many things that you have to sort out; default programs may have changed. It is still fresh and hot from the oven and so it is better to wait for a couple of weeks to see how those who have upgraded are doing. Generally an upgrade means changes of packages and that would involve a lot of troubleshooting and many visits to launchpad.net for bug fixes and workarounds.
It's more stable then 12.04 lts ... everything works fine .. in my opinion it's better the the lts
Been using Ubuntu since 8.04. Have always moved on with each new release. FOr previous 2 had used the upgrade path, this time did a clean install. Now boting and running much quicker.
Had also been given a second hand atom basd netbook, initially ran that on Jolicloud but seeing how much faster 12.10 seemed tried it on the netbook, runs nicely and the unified unity does appear to deliver as promised. Using it right now typing this.
Updated to Xubuntu 12.10; had a little trouble finding the link to the Ubuntu 1 client, it turns out Xubuntu now puts it in Settings and I can't move it to my kicker or toolbar. And Firefox keeps telling me it has crashed when I close it.
:New: is the enemy of :stable:
Most machines here are on 10.04 still and a few are running 8.04.
couldn't wait to upgrade cause compiz ate 50% of my cpu (problem with fglrx). it consumes less cpu now, although still not very performant, and wlan doesn't work anymore. the distro is still far away of being a serious competitor of win and mac, unfortunately.
I am waiting for bug fixes and for fogger to be ready before I upgrade. I use fogger app everyday so for now I can't upgrade.
Upgraded the laptop from 12.04 tp 12.10, love the new features, detest how slllllllooooooowwwww it is.
Desktop is still running 11.10 until you guys fix the damn problem of the OS giving Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controllers the silent treatment >_
My vote > No plans to upgrade from 12.04 anytime soon
I have been using Ubuntu since 9.04. Actually I convince almost all of my colleagues (20+ persons), to use Ubuntu since 2009. It just works mostly. We are able to do our jobs as usual and have no virus problem since then. Upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 was smooth, and I have been patient with Unity. I think it is productive now to use Unity. Ubuntu should stress more to users to use Alt key to evoke Head Up Display (HUD), where (in supposed later to be in all application), we need to type a few letters, like PRI, then Ubuntu detect we would like to print.
Another key, is the super (Window) key, which will evoke the Dash, where we can also type a few letter, for example Th to show Thunderbird. This is definitively productive.
Try also Ctrl+ superkey +Left or Right Arrow, to resize current window to half of the screen size. I use it a lot to work with two documents, right and left of my screen.
I miss the emblemize of folder in Nautilus though. It helps to quickly fish out a folder out of ocean of folders. I have to compromise with Bookmarking the folder.Still miss the emblemize.
I upgraded on the weekend for both at home and work. I was noticing that animations were very slow when comparing with 12.04. It was not until OMG Ubuntu's article, that I found out that this was on purpose. So I fine tuned all my usual customizations and it works very well, I have not had an issue with compiz breaking up every once in a while like it did with 12.04 on my work computer. So overall, it feels more stable and solid.
I had borked my 12.04 system's config some time ago, so decided to upgrade to 12.10 via a fresh install this past weekend. Within about two hours I had a fresh OS install and all my daily apps were back on the system and fully configured. Upgrading the wife's netbook (again, a fresh install) took all of about an hour. Overall pretty painless.
I will say I'm very disappointed with the webapps implementation. As it stands, I'm anxiously awaiting a 12.10-compatible release for Fogger (which I understand we should be seeing in about a month).
Tried several clean installations using different nvidia cards with the same results. The drivers will not allow for native resolution or any change for that matter other than 800x600. I have gone back to 12.04.
I've been using Ununtu since 4.10, uppgrading both hardware and ubuntu over the years - it has been a great experiance and fun.
My last pc was running 10.04 LTS then uppgraded to 12.04 LTS. As I assumed that there was no major diff from 12.04 to 12.10 I recently made made a uppgrade to 12.10.
It ran for a few days then it lost its root (/) - I don't know if my harddrive crashed or if it has do with the uppgrade.
So I just dont realy care. I purchased a new laptop with win 7. I run win7 now for a while, not instaling any Ubuntu versions as yet. I fell that the latest Ubuntu versions is realy a disapointment, the Ubuntu evolution is now days just to exprimental with Unituy, with just realy bad user interface - the left buttons are realy uggly too.
Its realy sad how this has been envolved.
Lets hope for somthing better.
/kjell
I installed it on one of my laptops. Both the nvidia and nouveau driver dont work with my gpu chip any more. Only fix is to downgrade half the os, or install 12.04. Time for a new laptop me thinks
I upgraded and used unity for a day, it was terrible very buggy and slow. I've been trying to like unity but I can't.
I upgraded this morning and within an hour after was complete I really regretted having done so. The web apps implementation which I was eager to tryout is seriously broken. None of the bugs I really wanted to be fixed are fixed. And many new bugs have been introduced... For example compiz no longer supports different wallpapers on different workspaces. In 5 years of using Ubuntu this is the lamest upgrade yet.
I installed 12.10 64bit on a separate partition. The NVIDIA driver isn't working properly anymore. The resolution is wrong and can't be changed. I need to use the Nouveau driver which functions OK. Furthermore some programs can't be installed from their ppa like ubuntuone-indicator, classicmenu-indicator, weather-indicator (they can be installed from the 12.04 ppa though) and the imagebrowser Geeky crashes immediately after starting. I'm glad I still have my good working 12.04. I didn't test the rest till now.
Upgraded but it ran really slow. On both my amd and nvidia card computers, both not bad Systems . Amd 7950 tried every variant of driver and nvidia using open source driver and proprietary. Cpu was a core i5 and other core duo. Downgraded to 12.04. Will sick with 12.04 and only test new versions in virtual box Or on spare computers.
I updated my notebook as Beta2 came out and it works very well. But in 12.10 Bluefish has a bug so I can't use the tabulator-function anymore. This is crap, cause I need Bluefish every day.
On my desktop-pc I still use 12.04 and I have no plans to upgrade as long as Bluefish has this tab-bug in 12.10. My Mum's notebook also still uses 12.04.
As I had installed 12.04 on my notebook it booted in 4 secounds to the login-screen (SSD). Ubuntu 12.10 needs 10 secounds and sometimes even longer. This is a shame! No LTS = no speed on boot? As I am logged in Ubuntu works very fast. Nothing to complain. Only the boot-time sucks! By the way, the shutdown-time sucks too.
My advice: If you don't need the new functions in Ubuntu 12.10 stay on 12.04!
I've upgraded at home, but not at work.
Update done ! This last update was a mess. ATI HD 2600 stop working, lost acess to X . Virtualbox stop working (Could not fix it yet).
Sorry ... this isn't the linux for humans i've been waiting for :(
IMO the way ubuntu is changing is a very bad one. I have 12.04 installed and after almost three good years of using ubuntu I'm thinking seriously about to switch to another distro.
* doesn't offer...
tried updating. unity refused to launch after login. no sound. promptly reinstalled 12.04.
I have never found "upgrading" to be a painless process. I have since done fresh installs for all releases. I think 12.10 does offer all that much over 12.04. At least not enough for me to do a fresh install. I am a big fan of the latest LTS release! :-)
12.10 is the worst Ubuntu!...10.04 was the fastest and the best
P.s. amd drivers work fine for my on amd64 version with full amd/asus hardware
I have been using it since beta 2, there is no better way to experience the new futures than this
I tried, but they removed the alternate iso, so, no option to install with RAID, also, some upgrade to X ended up completly messing up my 4-screen setup... multiple monitors and worse yet, multiple grapich cards is still a pain in the ass on linux :(
Running 12.04 with gnome clasic shell now... Will probarbly try again later, or wait for 13.04...
A couple of things always hold me back - remote access over NX is a big one for me with the demise of Unity-2D + I have to use VMware Player to run a instance of a client's Development server environment and that seems to be broken until VMware updates its version.
The last upgrade broke my RAID settings and so I don't want to risk this time...
I'm using Gnome Shell on 12.04 (and love it), and I'm worried it will break on an upgrade.
By the way the new Gnome Remix introduces so many apps that I don't need/like, that it's not a good alternative. Besides, AFAIU you cannot upgrade directly from my Gnome Shell setup into the Remix.
@Alvise: I have an HD5770; the legacy drivers are not the solution.
The newest catalyst does not work with the newest X server, and the open source drivers do not work properly with my HDMI audio out.
12.04 it is for awhile, 12.10 has no new features worth using except uninstall from the dash to get rid of rubbish like gwibber and Ubuntu one.
I've not been very impressed with 12.10 so far. None of the issues I had with 12.04 has been resolved. New issues have been introduced. Also, the feature I was looking forward to the most, webapps, has been implemented in such a way that I won't be using it (duplicated running icons + tab in webapp)!
All in all I love the features of Unity, the HUD, and everything else Ubuntu have done. It's just such a shame is let down by bugs, bugs and more bugs!!
This, http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html, probably can solve your problem with the AMD drivers. It work flawlessly, for me...
The AMD drivers do not support the latest x server, so I'm stuck on the LTS until they upgrade them.