What do you think of the discipline for Ndamukong Suh?

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  • Tim - 9 years ago

    What the NFL, Ted Cottrell, and Ndamukong Suh are all betting on is that too soon the fans will just forget about this event. The real problem is not just the infraction, or the failed discipline by the NFL, but that this is typical of the entire persona of Suh. This is who he is.

  • Tim - 9 years ago

    Cotrell failed to consider the harm to other players and other franchises. This is not a first time occurrence for Suh and surely does not consider all the dirty deeds he has not been caught at, or the future acts for people like this will continue to behave like this if not truly punished. $70,000 is a joke to this players salary, I'm sure Sue is laughing at Cotrell now that it is over.

  • A football fan - 9 years ago

    Cotrell has no guts! He acknowledges he thinks Suh is at fault to a point, but doesn't uphold the suspension. All about the money. What happened to good sportsmanship? This man is known for his misconduct, hence all the other fines. Enough is enough! He should be out. I am so disgusted by the allowing of this conduct and by this team, they should lose their chance at the playoffs!

  • Sly Fox - 9 years ago

    Ted Cottrell, you are such a pansy and speak with a forked tongue. What's 70K to Suh? So what if it hurts the team, he should have thought of that before he stepped on Rogers, TWICE. I've spent 50 years in the cold, real cold, and even with cold feet I know when I step on something as big as a mans leg. Punishment is suppose to hurt that's why they call it punishment!!!!!!!! You and the brass never do things evenly that is why the people are disgusted with you for not being consistent with what you say and then what you do. Be up front and just say all you care about is making money for the NFL.

  • wil marsh - 9 years ago

    I thought the move to suspend was correct due to the action itself but more noticeable due to his lack of reaction immediately while walking away; have fans or media taken note the GB players/org hasn't really screamed foul but went on about their business. It says a lot about their poise & character. How many other opponents would have turned such an incident into a major brawl?

  • Shabza - 9 years ago

    Well said and well written Chris! Maybe Marco Polar? and Andrew should read your comment again! These two must be soccer fans! Lol
    Oh and Andrew could you please define "pussy", when I think of pussy I don't envision a 300 lb. man in a football uniform!

  • missvb4 - 9 years ago

    Cottrell needs to go. He caved so that they'd get the "game" they wanted. So little respect for NFL for doing this. This totally goes against their "message" that they are trying to make the game more safe. Disgusted with this decision.

  • andrew lubin - 9 years ago

    What a pussy. He's too cowardly to hit someone face-to-face, and then lacks the cojones to admit it. Detroit's a perfect team for him, and the NFL the perfect league.

  • Chris - 9 years ago

    Cottrell stated: “Based on your representations, I am willing to give you the benefit of doubt that you did not intend to injure your opponent."

    Cottrell didn't believe it was intentional. He thought it was careless. The ref who saw the whole thing didn't think it was intentional. Mike Pereira didn't think it was intentional. Bill Polian didn't think it was intentional.

    I wonder how many people who say this play was dirty ever bothered to look at he video with a full angle and at full speed. People are judging Suh's intent for an action that takes place in milliseconds by looking at his feet.

    Anyone who has ever played a competitive contact sport knows how many times you get stepped on and how many times you step on other people. You don't look down. You look at the ball. You keep playing.

    No football player in the history of football (or any sport) has ever been penalized, fined, or suspended for stepping on someone for less than a second who had just fallen down right behind the other player's feet.

    This whole thing is absurd and shows how biased the NFL is and how the media will create drama and a frenzy over the tiniest thing that happens in milliseconds.

  • David giese - 9 years ago

    If one of our players did that I would pat him on the back. Get real people it is football. Oh, and by the way, I live two miles from Lambeau Field.

  • Gary Werner - 9 years ago

    Ted Cottrell, you Lifeless Dog Doll of the NFL! I read your crap response to overturn your one game suspension which should have been two games and it was absolute Crap! But considering the source its understandable! 80% of the public said one game or more should have been the call but you acted just like a polititian! Perfect! You pussy!

  • A M Wagner - 9 years ago

    The NFL once again, fell on its face. With its m.o. of letting heinous crime go virtually unpunished, the league has let it be known that thuggery ad dirty play are not just a PART of football, but a culture to be nurtured, accepted, and worst of all, EXPECTED. Does Goodell and his band of cronies think that a 300 lb. weight landing not once but twice on someone's fibula won't ever fracture it? Are we watching ROLLER DERBY on Sunday afternoons? Is this the WWE, where we will see Suh jumping from the top rope very soon? Do the owners condone this sort of behavior? This sort of behavior has to stop, and if it means BANNING Suh and those like him-well so be it! I don't think even the Detroit fans want to see this go on any longer. It takes away from the performances of Calvin Johnson, Matt Stafford, and the other players who earn their keep. Goodell, do your job, or leave your post!

  • Gary hannemann - 9 years ago

    Instead of "numb feet" SUH should have used a "numb skull" argument; he would of won his appeal

  • Malibu - 9 years ago

    Dear NFL:

    You got it wrong... again. Your once golden product, becomes more tarnished each week. Your mighty empire is starting to show some cracks. I hope you can fix it before it crumbles. Common sense would be a good place to start.

  • mhjh - 9 years ago

    Cottrell is suezzy suh's woman. What a total disgrace to true sportsmen. Cottrell should be fired. He even admitted suezzy was wrong.

  • ldockey17 - 9 years ago

    if he did no wrong, why the fine. suspension or nothing but not a fine. like being a little pregnant

  • William Campbell - 9 years ago

    Mr. Cottrell is obviously swayed by big money, with Suh in the playoff game TV Sponsor money with be higher due to higher viewer numbers and the betting odds with be more even. A $70K fine to Suh is equivalent to a parking ticket. Cottrell was swayed by the opinions of the Lions team, but I read no mention of any consultation with the Green Bay Packer organization and what their opinion might have been. If this is an example of fair administration of NFL regulations then it is obvious that the system needs revamping. One person empowered to make these decisions is an unjust process ... I wonder if Mr. Cottrell benefited from his decision in some way? The NFL should appoint a hearing panel of League officials to mete out punishment and hear appeals. One person should not be granted such power.

  • ron matt - 9 years ago

    Overturned because of the effect a suspension would have on the team and the fans. bullcrap, with that logic I suppose I can go rob a bank and get a suspended sentence because of the effect my going to prison would have on my family. The f**king NFL would probably overlook it if Suh pulled a Glock out of his shoulder pads and shot whoever was running down the field with the ball.

  • Jsven - 9 years ago

    So, let me get this straight, Suh will be allowed to play knowing full well his history of dirty tactics. Therefore other players will be placed in jeopardy so the offending team can play? Where is the logic here???? Seems to me the NFL is indirectly condoning this conduct. A fine for a player making a HUGE salary is less than a slap on the wrist. Too bad for the integrity of the game of football and for the NFL leadership.

  • marco polar - 9 years ago

    Well Shabza, suspend him for the one game, remember it's only a game. Defending player's as such, only proves the ignorance you spew.

  • Roger - 9 years ago

    The NFL sucks and they have NO GUTS. Suh should be banned from the league. He is a total JERK!

  • Sue Wicihowski - 9 years ago

    RAY J: Trying to blame what Suh did, by first saying Aaron didn't belong in the game, come on, get real! Then to say Suh was pushed by a Packer. Yes, he was. He knew where Aaron was, he put him there. Suh showed his disregard for another player, by not even acknowledging that he stepped on anyone, not even a glance backward, because he knew exactly what he was standing on. So he used his other foot to push off of Aarons ankle, and tried to do more injuries. Suh has no regard for other players. Ten fines in two years. Don't you think that indicates the man has a problem? The problem is big money, win at all costs! Shame on the NFL and shame on Ted Cottrell who listened to the Lions, crying about losing the dirtiest player in the game.

  • Sue Wicihowski - 9 years ago

    I think Mr Cottrell needs to resign as Hearing Officer. Suh has now been fined 10 times in 2 years for various vicious attacks on opposing players. And Mr. Cottrell is easily swayed by Suh's team to let him continue in the play-offs? The team should be fined for allowing this man to act out as he does when things aren't going his way. There is no way what he does, can be considered "unintentional". Ten times, in 2 years, is a habitual offender. He should be barred before he is ALLOWED to do permanent damage to another human being. Mr. Conttrell is not acting in the best interest of the sport, and should step down. And Suh should be barred for life!

  • Pat - 9 years ago

    I agree with Steve's comments. The only way to stop this dirty play is to make it painful to the team. When that happens things will change. $70K may seem like a lot to "Ted C" but it's junk change to Shu. They should have talked to "HALL OF FAMER WARREN SAPP" - one of the hardest hitters ever. He called it Cheap. He'd hit Brett like a bull and then HELP HIM UP. That's a football player. Shu changes the Johnny Cash song to "A Girly Boy Named Shu". All the Lion's org is doing is saying "if we cannot win fair - cheat". If he had not ment to step on Rogers he would have turned to see what he stepped on and helped him up. Instead he figured no one was looking and he'd get away with being a cheap shot artist. THANKS TO THIS TED C HE'LL DO IT AGAIN!

  • gkk - 9 years ago

    Ted Cottrell: "However, the seriousness of this offense, the potential for injury, and my conclusion that it was avoidable, demands substantial discipline." $70,000.00. Substantial? No one is listening. The league originally thought it warranted substantial discipline and meted a one game suspension. Suh had every opportunity to turn around and see who he was standing on and offer a word of apology, whether it is heartfelt or not, and he chose not to. He could have gone one step further by turning around and offering a hand up to Rodgers. Those two things would have required a manly thing called sportsmanship.

    The League is not punishing the Lions organization and fans, rather, it is Suh that is punishing the Lions organization and Lions fans.

    “Although I accept that your feet may have been cold on a late December day in Green Bay, it is difficult for me to believe that you did not feel Aaron Rodgers’ leg under you as you stepped on him twice,” Cottrell wrote. “While you may not have consciously intended to cause injury to the opposing player that you stepped on, I nonetheless believe that you could have avoided—and had the responsibility to avoid—making such dangerous contact with your opponent’s leg—twice. Your conduct was a clear violation of the Playing Rules and was outside the normal course of the game of football. It must be emphasized that illegal acts that jeopardize the safety of other players, as was certainly the case here, will not be tolerated in this League.”

    Twice....

    It reads like he is talking to a 2-year-old. In that case, consistency matters.

    Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Shame on the NFL for abdicating their initial decision. That is if they truly believe the rhetoric they espouse.

  • Shabza - 9 years ago

    Anyone that has played the game should know that it is a dirty, violent emotional game!
    We don't see the real abuse that goes on at the line or in the scrums while tackling! what goes around comes around!
    and Those that announce the game have a duty to announce the game not give their one sided opinions! No penalty on the field!
    So why penalize after the game! Suck it up people it's only a game!

  • Tony K. - 9 years ago

    I'm really sorry for all the fans outside the state of Michigan that the suspension was reduce to a fine due to Ted knowing full well that the Lions would get their butts whipped and the line on the game would be removed. You win as a team and lise as a team. Please explain why the Lions center suspension was upheld. Was their a different ruling in the case and I'm interested in reading his explanation. I'm sick of the NFL and their inconsistent policies.

  • ray j - 9 years ago

    We need to look at this realistically. All of these replays are in slow motion and only focused on the lower frame of the picture. Suh was being pushed back by the very offensive lineman that got into the argument with him! Aaron Rodgers should have never been in the game at that point! The man was injured! Suh has done some stupid things in the past, but I think this particular instance is a witch hunt. So Suh was trying to get to the quarterback as usual, the play was near to being over, TJ Lang pushes Suh back near the end of the play, Suh then has eyes on the back of his helmet to see EXACTLY where Rodgers is laying on the ground, and lines up his leg, and purposely steps on it??? This is ridiculous!
    For all Packer fans up in arms about this: YOUR OWN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN PUSHED THE MAN BACK ONTO RODGERS!! Everyone may try and deny this, but the film don't lie, unless of course if it is shown in slow motion and only the lower frame of the video!
    All this is a bunch of bull crap. Call this particular play as it happened, not for what it is, not for what Ndamukong Suh has done in the past.
    I challenge all of you folks in a hissy fit to look at this video, in full frame, and at full speef. Life is not lived in slow motion! Tell me how a 310 lb man can be pushed backwards by another 300 lb man, know what is behind him while wearing a football helmet, know exactly where he is stepping and what is behind him, and all this within a couple of seconds and lineup a person's ankle perfectly to step on it.

    All this whoopla is not about what happened, it's only because it's Aaron Rodgers, that's it. The Packers organization needs to do themselves a favor and stop putting injured players like Rodgers on the field, that was the injustice in this story! The man can barely walk and he is out there risking his long term health?
    I personally, while not a Packer fan, like Aaron Rodgers and really respect what he and his teammates have accomplished over the years. I think that the Parker's organization and coaching staff have been excellent in the last 10 years. But I believe that this was blown out of proportion, that Ndamukong Suh has been falsely accused only because Aaron Rodgers was involved, and that he should not have to pay one penny on the $70,000 fine. That fine should be paid by TJ Lang if anyone since he is the person who really caused this issue!

  • Dick Whippee - 9 years ago

    Where's Roger? Still out to lunch?
    The NFL should let Roger go.

  • Jimmy K - 9 years ago

    Caldwell was brought in to instill discipline in a team with a dirty past. Nice work Jim!

  • Mary Haasch - 9 years ago

    The reduction in the punishment is so typical of what is wrong with the sports culture. This action will only serve to reinforce the bad behavior of Suh. It's OK to be a jerk, a spoiled brat, a sociopath out to hurt others because I play sports which makes money and anything hurtful done will be swept under the carpet. The NFL proves again that sports is above even their own law when money is involved. The shield means nothing. A punishment is supposed to hurt. Obviously the NFL, the Lions organization, the coaches and the players for the Lions would rather put up with the bad behavior than do something about it because Suh has talent. Money and TV ratings leads to ethical blindness. The repeat offender will repeat his bad behavior again because there isn't any real consequence. I just hope someone's career isn't affected. I'm disgusted.

  • Kelly Johnson - 9 years ago

    The NFL is pathetic on who and how they punish players! Who cares that it might affect the game this weekend against the Cowboys! Suh did his team wrong and he should have to suffer the consequences period! If you want to do crap like this and let him play why did you not reinstate Adrian Peterson It surely affected the Vikings playoff hopes not being with the team the whole season! I am about to give up on the NFL because there sure is alot of shady crap going on this past year and it starts with Roger Goodell! NFL Owners you had better send him packing or possibly face losing fans

  • Jay - 9 years ago

    Clearly a lot of Packer And Cowboy fans as well as people who never played football beyond jr. High or HS. Watching the game and the video and all the reports about this incident it is clear that Lang blocked him back into Rodgers causing the first step. The 2nd step is about momentum. A 300lb man doesn't stop on a dime the 2nd step is trying to gain balance. Such never looks down at Rodgers to seek out his injures leg. For all he knew he could have been laying the complete other direction, in which case the 2nd step would have missed Rodgers completely. But like a good defensive player Suh is looking up field to see what is happening with the play not paying attention to an opponent on the ground while the play is still going. Yes Suh has shown himself to be a dirty player at times, but this was not one of those times. Any person who says things like "anyone can see that it was intentional" has never been engaged with a 6'5" 320lb lineman doing his best to knock you on your ass. What Raiola did was clearly intentional, what Suh did was incidental.

  • thom - 9 years ago

    this is a travisty. the guy is a thug and so are many of his teamates. mnost of them couldnot spell class if you spotted them the cl and ss./ What a joke this poor idiot mistakenly kicks people and steps on them and they fine hime less than 5 minutes salary! I hope who ever signs him next year plays the lions and he rewards them for their support with dirty play! this is why i enjoy college football much better and will not pay a nickel to go to a pre game !

  • Darren Hill - 9 years ago

    For all the haters of Suh!! If your team signs him next year, will you stop following them? Will you not root for him? He dominates on the field and may do some undesirable things but you can't tell me that your team wouldn't make a run at signing him if financially possible!! So stop hating on the city of Detroit and other players from Detroit or fans of Detroit!! Next season the shoe may be on the other foot!!!

  • Steve - 9 years ago

    Suh is a thug. Whether the nfl and/or the arbitrator look at his sorry history of offenses or only at the latest one, players like Suh and the team that turns a blind eye to his antics need to feel it where it hurts (multiple-game suspension). Fines mean nothing to Suh, as he has shown. The Lions are a dirt ball organization; it's not only that they tolerate this behavior--they do nothing to prevent it. Sickening.

  • PJ - 9 years ago

    injustice decision that further indicates the NFL needs a complete administrative overhaul. This kind of "sportsmanship" is what or how we are condoning to our ourselves, or more importantly, to our children. What about the previous suspensions? Three (3) times and you are out! $70 grand? I'm sure Suh will feel that. Makes you wonder if Cottrell has his hand in someone's pocket. Unfortunately, little or no change will occur unless we as fans boycott football enough to make it hurt financially. I guess that why I don't give as much of a care as I used to.

  • Vern Fetch - 9 years ago

    The City of Detroit should be truly incensed to have a low-life team such as the lions represent them. The NFL did almost the right thing in the one game suspension; to be really right, the suspension should have been for this last game and the first four of the regular season next year. I mean, make it hurt. This Suh guy gets away with being the dirtiest player in the game because of guys like Cottrell. A $70,00 fine to Suh is like a dime to me...........what b.s.

  • Cappie Smith - 9 years ago

    Unfair to the team? It's seems to be a habit of this team to intentionally pull crap like this. I wouldn't be surprised if somehow Detroit slipped Suh the cash so he wasn't even out of pocket for this. He deserved a MULTI game suspension.

  • Keith - 9 years ago

    What a gutless move. A suspension was precisely what was needed in order to impress on Suh and the team the seriousness of the NFL's intent to protect players. Do they really want to protect people or are they only interested in their bottom line profits? Past fines haven't done the job, so why not let the whole NFL family know that when a member of a team continues to display such poor sportsmanship then the team SHOULD suffer along with the perpetrator. Some good old fashioned peer pressure is a good thing in reigning in renegade players.

  • Jean Burns - 9 years ago

    If you can't see that it was intentionally, you have no common sense. He is a dirty player. All you have to do is look at his past record. Don't even tell me it was an accident. That is really stupid. I have a lot of common sense and can tell what is real and not real.

  • Barb kearns - 9 years ago

    The NFL supposedly is trying to protect quarterbacks. They are sure not worrying about this guy who has a history of fines for bad conduct. This is a very poor decision. If it had been a one time thing ok but they have just given this guy the go-ahead to do it again with nothing to lose but a few bucks. Whatever the reasoning they used extremely poor judgement which has been apparent in every disciplinary action lately. Only to change a ruling when they get too many complaints. Goodell needs to let someone else mete out the suspensions and/or fines, cuz he is doing a bad job of it.

  • Tim O - 9 years ago

    Suh makes $35K per minute on the playing field. Cottrell continues to make statements that scold players (Reed, Kapernick. Suh, bounty) while reducing the commissioner's fines and suspensions to insignificant amounts. Cottrell may have been a good defensive coordinator when player safety was not regulated, but putting him in charge of safety arbitration is like assigning the safety of the henhouse to the fox. He was 0-6 as a head coach and 0-6 as an arbitrator.

  • Mike Y - 9 years ago

    C'mon, it was all about the money. NFL knows this game will now be watched even more. Just follow the money trail, always leads you to the truth.

  • Greg hawkins - 9 years ago

    Oh but it IS tolerated in the NFL. They want the TV ratings.

  • Glenn - 9 years ago

    This was the latest in a long line of clear attempts to injure opposing players. Clearly through the years, the Lions organization has done little or nothing to put an end to this. He attacks defenseless or prone players with the intent to seriously harm them. The mere fact that he lifted one foot to put all his weight on Rodgers leg with that 2nd step was clear intent to injure. He should be suspended for four games and make the seriousness of his behavior one that either he stops or should suffer significant financial loss until he does get the message.

  • Frank Reparte - 9 years ago

    Suh is a unrepentant dirty player. He is a lot like Kwame Kilpatrick was for the city of Detroit. If the Lions want to be a team with character, that can win big games, it is time to move on. Call out the undisciplined players and their sorry acts and dump Suh to the Raiders or other NFL organization that cannot win and will not learn.

  • Erik - 9 years ago

    I hate this as much as the rest of the people posting here. "Would hurt you, the team, and the fans..."? What kind of BS is that, "you are guilty, but...punishing you is the wrong move!"

    ...however why the hate on the NFL? Cottrell and the Players Association are to blame, not Goodell and the NFL. I am crediting the NFL for taking these actions in the first place.

  • Chad - 9 years ago

    Overturning an appeal because it would hurt Suh and the team, isn't a good enough reason. Suh's actions hurt his team. That's a typical move by the NFL, all rules, no enforcement.

  • Kevin - 9 years ago

    The Lions organization has had ample chances to take action to change Suh, but have clearly and intentionally chosen not to do anything to about Suh's horrendous behavior. So the Lions, as an organization, as a team, deserve the consequences of Suh's actions.

    The NFL continues to make bone-headed decisions. The rot starts at the top and continues to work its way down. Mark Cuban's prediction looks like it will come true in time.

  • Jim Kroush - 9 years ago

    The problem with the league saying they will not tolerate this kind of action is this is his third offense and he is still getting away with this kind of conduct.

  • Bill mullins - 9 years ago

    Did anyone care to hear from rodgers. Ask his opinion, talk packer personnel. This was such an injustice to the deed done. You knew he did intentionally and you were afraid your going hurt the lions chances. What if Rodgers could not play because his leg does heal correctly, but he misses the game. Would suspend him then. Soft and easy way out.

  • Jim McGiven - 9 years ago

    complete bullshit - pussies in the NFL....follow normal laws when applicable - you do it elsewhere. crap sport, crap management - might start really watching true football

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