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Anyone that thinks this is a good thing is a idiot,just come follow me on some of the back roads I travel to pick and drop loads with your 91,000 lb truck and trailer and I might throw you a life vest.come on you really think my rates wouldn't go up,yeah right,way up,new truck new trlr because rating isn't high enough on present equip. and more equip,tires fuel, and the roads,already in New Mexico and Arizona and other states where they have put down new asphalt,it's already rutted out. STUPID IDEA! NUFF SAID
It is about time. If the infrastructure is not up to it then fix it . If the additional cost of equipment is prohibitive to some then get out of the industry as you have not kept pace with the natural progression of the industry which is inevitable .
It is not a case that freight rates will rise initially and then fall back . The missed point is there will be no enforcement to mandate the increased weight for all. However, if you do not your share of the freight market will be seriously reduced.
As far as the country is concerned it is now at least 20 years behind Europe and unless the size of vehicle is to continue to be more important than its carrying capacity then please continue to be inferior in performance levels.
The economy will benefit from the increase and that will benefit individual 's pockets.
To encourage the progression the registration fees should be reduced for 6 axle use which would compensate for the additional cost of equipment . Do not worry about tyre wear as if you know about this configuration you will know it will be negligable.
These comments are made by somebody who has operated 6 axle outfits since the late eighties in both Europe and USA and that philosophy is still practiced today.
Come on America. Wake up
Looking at this current idea of raising the federal weight limit to 91,000 lbs by adding another axle reminds me of an article in a 1975 issue of Overdrive magazine when owner operators were demanding the federal weight limit be raised from 73,280 to 80,000 lbs. An eighty year old retired owner operator wrote about every time through the decades that the Federal weight regulation was raised owner operators would carry the increased weight for the same pay that they were carrying the liter load for. I think what he was saying in 1975 was that the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Well I have been pulling a multi axle unit for years and the extra revenue has kept me in business yet I have serious problems with this proposal. I've had to have the correct number of axles, length, etc. to haul the extra weight. The Federal Bridge Formula needs to stay in place. So I agree with many the extra weight will damage our already appalling roads. But I disagree with those that automatically see a safety issue. I have more inches of tread rubber on the road when I use the added axles thus less weight per tire or per axle than a regular 80,000lb truck, plus more braking power. I agree that drivers should have a minimum number of years driving before being allowed to drive over 80,000 lbs.
While we're at it. Let's just pull double 48's and 53's. Make it where we can pull 2 full loads, why not three long trailers. Get paid for three loads at once.
With the additional weight of the axle,tires,drums,suspension etc.,etc., one would only realize a net payload gain of approximately 8500 lbs . that's good for the commodity haulers and only some freight carriers who may "weigh-out-before they cube-out". most can now get permits to exceed the 80,000 anyway so why risk a major economic and safety hardship for the industry as a whole ?
Just what we need heavier trucks being driven by undertrained and underexperienced drivers. When will someone demonstrate some good sense?
Freight rates per ton will go down. I have seen that happen when everyone in the neighborhood started pulling triple axle grain trailers
The law should go "back" to 73,280 LBS. It would help the highways, as the GOVERNMENT DOESN'T SEEM TO WANT TO FIXED THEM.. Our HIGHWAYS are unsafe in the UNITYED STATES..
Jimmy Davis, You've never seen anything of mine laying in its side. I'm not really sure what a "cinapeed" is either. I commented facts hoping for an intelligent debate and instead I get childish name calling. By the way it's spelled "ridiculous". Not every truck exceeds 80,000 in NY. NY has a divisible load permit system in place. If you want to exceed 80k you buy the permit and the equipment and you can legally exceed 80,000 pounds. If you don't feel the need to haul extra weight you don't. Our roads are in the shape they are in because they are old and there is a lot of traffic here. We have a hard enough time finding drivers now. If NY had to gross 80,000 pounds we would need twice as many trucks. Remember the same tonnage of freight and material has to be moved. But I'm the "retarded" one!!!!
LARGE TRUCKING COMPANIES AND THE GOVERNMENT ARE WORKING IN THEIR PLAN TO BRING IN CHEAP DRIVERS, INSTALL SPEED-LIMITERS FOR SAFETY SO THEY CAN UP THE WEIGHT LIMITS, USE UN-FAIRLY APPLIED SAFETY RULES AND ELECTRIC LOGS ALL FAVORING LARGE COMPANIES, IN AN ATTEMPT TO DESTROY ALL OF THE SMALL COMPANIES AND OWNER-OPERATORS , THEIR PLAN IS WORKING ,,, EXCEPT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE EXPOSED TO THOUSANDS OF UNDER-TRAINED DRIVERS PULLING HEAVIER LOADS ,DRIVING ALL AT THE SAME SPEED WITH UNHAPPY, UNDERPAID DRIVERS BEHIND THE WHEEL. IN THE NAME OF SAFETY OWNER-OPERATORS WILL BE FORCED OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE LOW RATES, COSTS OF IMPLEMENTING ALL OF THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT, AND THE COSTS OF BUYING NEWER EQUIPMENT. HEAVIER LOADS WILL COST MORE EQUIPMENT FAILURES .MORE TIRE WEAR AND FAILURES, MORE FUEL CONSUMPTION AND ALL FOR LOWER FREIGHT RATES WHICH WILL BE THE DIRECT RESULT OF SMALL COMPANIES AND OWNER-OPERATORS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS... JUST WHAT THE GOVERNMENT AND LARGE COMPANIES HAVE PLANNED. FIRST THEY DESTROYED THE UNIONSI NOW THEY ARE COMING AFTER US... I ,FOR ONE, WON"T WORK 90 HOURS A WEEK ,AWAY FROM MY FAMILY, AND LIVE IN IN A TRUCK BEING SUBJECTED TO THE STRESS OF TRAFFIC,LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WEIGH STATIONS FOR MINIMUM WAGE.,.SO IF THEY AREN"T STOPPED I WILL GET OUT OF MY TRUCK AND GO TO WORK AT MCDONALDS,,,
LARGE TRUCKING COMPANIES AND THE GOVERNMENT ARE WORKING IN THEIR PLAN TO BRING IN CHEAP DRIVERS, INSTALL SPEED-LIMITERS FOR SAFETY SO THEY CAN UP THE WEIGHT LIMITS, USE UN-FAIRLY APPLIED SAFETY RULES AND ELECTRIC LOGS ALL FAVORING LARGE COMPANIES, IN AN ATTEMPT TO DESTROY ALL OF THE SMALL COMPANIES AND OWNER-OPERATORS , THEIR PLAN IS WORKING ,,, EXCEPT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE EXPOSED TO THOUSANDS OF UNDER-TRAINED DRIVERS PULLING HEAVIER LOADS ,DRIVING ALL AT THE SAME SPEED WITH UNHAPPY, UNDERPAID DRIVERS BEHIND THE WHEEL. IN THE NAME OF SAFETY OWNER-OPERATORS WILL BE FORCED OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE LOW RATES, COSTS OF IMPLEMENTING ALL OF THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT, AND THE COSTS OF BUYING NEWER EQUIPMENT. HEAVIER LOADS WILL COST MORE EQUIPMENT FAILURES .MORE TIRE WEAR AND FAILURES, MORE FUEL CONSUMPTION AND ALL FOR LOWER FREIGHT RATES WHICH WILL BE THE DIRECT RESULT OF SMALL COMPANIES AND OWNER-OPERATORS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS... JUST WHAT THE GOVERNMENT AND LARGE COMPANIES HAVE PLANNED. FIRST THEY DESTROYED THE UNIONSI NOW THEY ARE COMING AFTER US... I ,FOR ONE, WON"T WORK 90 HOURS A WEEK ,AWAY FROM MY FAMILY, AND LIVE IN IN A TRUCK BEING SUBJECTED TO THE STRESS OF TRAFFIC,LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WEIGH STATIONS FOR MINIMUM WAGE.,.SO IF THEY AREN"T STOPPED I WILL GET OUT OF MY TRUCK AND GO TO WORK AT MCDONALDS,,,
Add an extra axle pull more weight give me a brake, look at the rates now the heavy loads and pay worth a crap and they burn more fuel. I hardly ever pull any thing over 20,000 lbs, why would I pull 40,000 lbs for $1.45 a mile when I can pull 10,000 lbs for $2.45 a mile. That's not smart business. If we add a third axle then thy will want 55,000 hauled for the same rate as what they want to pay for 44,000 lbs now. There are idiots that will fall for it.
TRuttura, I've seen you're cinapeedes layin on there side a number of times!! And look at the conditions of the roads there!! Freakin redicoulous!!! I have to strap every thing down before i go into that area. you're retarded bubba!!!
The anti christ ATA (LoL) want this for the big trucking company's for larger revenue, then they will get bigger contributions!!! Some one needs to find a hacker to put ATA down. I wouldnt piss on their head if it was on fire!!!!
Just like deregulation and when the 80,000# weight limit went in to effect we haul more for less at our own personal expense. Tires,equipment,etc.does not last as long and the roads and bridges just keep getting rougher.
More weight = more wear & tear on equipment. Also you look like a douche when you have more than 5 axles. No thanks!
NO WAY .... were it up to me, we'd regress to 73280 & 45'x96" ! ! !
It doesn't take a PhD to calculate that trucking paid much better when equipment and loads were smaller. Now these fools haul more for less !
Know why this issue is being pushed ... ELD's
The Mega-Boys want higher gross in order to get around the reduction in profitability that ELD's will cause. Screw 'em, they have all the clout, the feds depend on them, so let them ensure that the ELD BS ends up in the round file.
I would be really happy to haul more and make less.
The only ones that will benefit from added weight are the shippers,recreivers,and the brokers. All these people will want the carrier to haul this weight for the same money as it has always been, and that is not enough, for the added cost of fuel and equipment. Ware on brake and tires will increase, longer time at shipper and recievers loading and unloading, The best thing that could happen is to raise the rate of pay for what we haul now and then there wouldn't be 10000 trucks setting in truck stops and rest area waiting for a loads everyday that they can afford to haul and make a profit. Make shippers and recievers pay for the time a truck sets at the dock after one hour, no excuses Pay it. Don't raise anymore taxes or Tolls on trucks, place a road tax on cars and small automobiles and place this tax in the price of gas for anyone that does not have a USDOT number. This would help pay there fare share and repair This would help pay there fare share and repair the roads and bridges in this country.
Same old bull shit !!!
New inexperienced drivers and the extra weight is a recipe for disaster. This recommendation is to combat the deficit in drivers without looking at the real problem of how to make trucking attractive to the job market.
This is just a way for shippers to load more but the rate will stay the same with additional wear on equipment.Have to also agree these new butts in the seats most of them have trouble with 80000# and just 5 axles..
These so called " new breed" of truck drivers can barely handle 80,000 lbs. in a turn imagine what's going to happen if they add another 11,000 lbs. to the gross weight?
If pay were based on weight, it would make sense. However, most pay is based on miles and commodity freight pays less than ad-hoc freight, so carriers will be required to haul more weight for the same money.
Greed that's all this is, it will benefit no one except the big companies. The government will end up paying for all the damage to the roads which the poor taxpayer will foot the bill.
New York runs 102k gross in 5 axles 107k on 6 axles and 117-120k on 7 axles. Ontario grosses close to 140k. If you don't believe that trucks can be operated safe over 80k than spend time in these two places. 7 axle units in NY get paid considerably higher rates than 5 axle units. NY and Ontario do more with less trucks.
New York runs 102k gross in 5 axles 107k on 6 axles and 117-120k on 7 axles. Ontario grosses close to 140k. If you don't believe that trucks can be operated safe over 80k than spend time in these two places. 7 axle units in NY get paid considerably higher rates than 5 axle units. NY and Ontario do more with less trucks.
Seems like a very bad idea. I can't hardly get drivers to pull 40,000 lbs