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I strongly oppose the ELD mandate. In my opinion it's too expensive too buy and maintain for small independent companies, the reasons for mandating it is bullshit. It's not any safer than running paper logs period.And there is no proof showing running ELD's are any safer. If anything it's gonna be more dangerous because drivers are gonna be driving alot more when they're tired. And with ELD's trucking companies dispatchers and terminal managers can go back and edit drivers logs without the drivers permission or knowledge. Which isn't fair. Plus a driver is be tracked and monitored like a convicted felon every hour of the day. We're truck drivers not criminals. Secondly I own my own truck. Bought and paid for it myself. So how can the FMCSA tell me how too drive and when too drive the damn truck that ive paid for? The ELD is a money game. There is lots of money too the government by the companies lobbying for it. Ppl are gonna make tons of money off it and everybody in this industry knows it. It ain't got a damn thing too do with safety. Safety is a bullshit reason too pass it so that the government and big companies can control the industry and run the independents out of it. It's not fair too small companies that are already operating on small margins too be forced too invest in a system under the fake pretense of safety that hasn't even been proven too be safe too begin with. It's bullcrap. The government is taking away every small advantage that small trucking companies have too compete with larger ones. I've been driving eleven years on paper log books without one recordable accident what so ever. I shouldn't have too be punished by running elogs because other companies safety records are bad. And deregulate the FMCSA if u wanna help us. They're passing too many regulations too hurt the trucking industry. And not enough too help it. How can the government put ppl in place too pass regulations on an industry that don't know shit about the industry they're regulating.
the show must go on, we get the job done. Installing an eld will incur extreme extra expenses added manpower and times to drive when our body says we cannot. accidents that are happening today are due to the pushed time frame and pushed for time drivers. its stupid, parking areas get filled to capacity at the same time and drivers scramble and or drive tired due to no parking to observe the time usage. the only positive, a massive restructuring of compensation and scheduling, but still, this adds more manpower, more people away from home; how would you like it as a shipper and have to pass on their costs, to the consumer, does 6.00 a mile put a shipper out of business? much more can be said, when you cause a driver to go faster and or restrict a driver from receiving his pay for his family and cause him/her more expense and wanting a robot to operate a delivery machine, you increase the probability of Error. FREEDOM to operate safely as we see fit is threatened. UNSAFE mandate method to try and control a
problem is not the answer, it just opens Pandora's box of problems.
The company I drive for has already installed the ELD's on their trucks so for me it's already here. Honestly, the only reason the company installed the ELD's ( the system isn't cheap) was to be able to keep track of their drivers. That is, the drivers current location, how long their drivers spend at various stops etc. So for me, it's already here. Personally, and I have been driving the big rigs for years, after 14 hrs I'm done and ready to stop. Doesn't make much difference to me as far as regulating the 14 hr regulation, I am always done and parked one way or another at the end of 14 hrs.
If you are for higher priced consumer goods then you are for the ELD mandate. Now is not the time for this. We are still in a recession and the ELD mandate certainly hurts our Economy! To much regulation!
I am totally against Elog. This machine is forced labor or just some way for big business to have control over your life as a trucker. Trump needs to dismantle this. We have families as well. Most of us just would like to be able to support them. Every time you turn around and money law is introduced. Sleep apnea machines, etc... abolish all these things and let trucking be fun and good again. This will be my last year trucking if this elog stays effective. I have no idea what I will do, but I will figure something out.
What does an ELD do other than fill up truckstops by 6pm and force drivers to speed all the time !
As I have just gave up on the trucking industry I still say it should b up to the individual. am letting my lisence go back to normal.find some other job.
I'm tired of the 1% of steering wheel holders that have accidents forceing people to make make rules for the 99% of professional truck drivers that do things right on a daily basis.
3 million trucks on the road at any given time doing it right and safely everyday has to mean something.
I don't know that I can afford the cost or monthly fees associated with ELD's.
we have 12 trucks. Our drivers run 14 nights out and 7 nights at home. They are paid percentage. About $2500 to $3000 in those 2 weeks out. Usually averaging about 2500 miles a week at most. We see trucks flying up and down the road, without any care for safety. One can easily tell that the driver is under elog. Hes in a desperate hurry to get the load either to a truck stop so he can get a parking place before the truck stop fills up or hes in one hell of a hurry to the shipper or receiver. In bad weather, he drives the same. Doesnt care if he creates an accident. Ive seen them run 4 wheelers and semis off the road in snow storms. They are always in a hurry. They should do away with elog and reduce the mph to 65, nation wide. This would actually save lives. And isnt that what the big deal of elog is. elog hasnt worked at all. Companies need to reduce the miles on drivers and pay them better. But that also goes along with the fact that the driver needs to take care of the equipment. Elog was supposedly designed to ensure that the public had a good safety net to catch and clear out the bad drivers. All it did was give them a reason to run as fast as they could in a careless and safeless state. The cost of elog is crippling as well. Very crippling. But the big companies would like to control the entire trucking industry and force all drivers to work for them only at 30 or 35 or 40 cents a mile, never getting home, never having a chance to raise the children or even kiss the wife. Its pretty drastic when your son gets a picture off the wall so he can see what his dad looks like. Straight sick. Drivers need a good check and good home time, not elog. Tell that to the big trucking companies. Safety should be first out on the road. Then get the load picked up and delivered, but safely. Take breaks every 3 to four hours, kick your tires on your break. Our drivers stop every 3 to 4 hours for a half hour break at a truck stop, usually loves. They kick the tires and if they need a tire, loves tire care is right there. Pull it in and take a break and a shower while they are fixing the tire. Elog has drivers going to crazy to plan that kind of trip. The constant trying the beat the clock, just doesnt work. It kills. Rush, rush, rush. Then the major catastrophe. Then the driver is to blame. Not all his fault tho. The company pushed and pushed, no time to drive safely, get the load, get the load. And elog said 14 hours, rush, rush, rush. Puts a driver one one hell of a nightmare. Lets get rid of elog and teach drivers how to drive, courteously and safely. Thank you
I am definitely against ELD's. It's another attempt at dumbing down society and will cost everyone more money because of less productivity and efficiency. And, it won't increase safety-maybe making your safe operator more dangerous as he hurries to maintain as much efficiency as possible. It will cost every citizen much more than they imagine because of added freight expense just like the government mandated health care bill that was going to save everone $2500 a year and in reality cost probably that much or more in additional expense rather than saving anything.
I have been driving truck for over 40 years, most of the time with my own authority. I figure it will cost me a minimum of 25-33% of my productivity and hence that much to my bottom line. It will probably put me out of business and terminate a profession I enjoy. I have lots to give yet and i'm not ready to head out to pasture.
The government gets involved in to many things,often with good intentions, but usually end up making a mess of things. Maybe for a trial, they should mandate that all owners and operators of POV's (including gov't beaureaucrats and "intellectuals") test the ELD's for two years and report back on there findings. How about the possibility of grandfathering in existing drivers or making it mandatory epuipment on new trucks sold after a certain date. That wouldn't be ideal but would allow those that have worked effectively for most of there life to finish there career.
Count me as a definite no to ELD's
Brad I do not want them because of cost also. But you cannot make a blank statent that everyone that is against isa Cheater. Most people are tired of Government in their Lives including me After 44 years of Trucking.
Though I am opposed to the excessive cost of operation that it will incur.
The only ones who do not want ELF are those who want to fudge their logs and run illegally.
Such an over reach of government. An example of one size fits all, no person who has ever driven for a living was involved with drafting this rule. The device may be fine for companies wanting to keep tabs on their drivers all the time and know exactly where and what they are doing, but for those that require flexibility, or yet another word that may be a shocker to many, "FREEDOM", it is an undue burden.
All I have heard is there will be no significant change and rates will go up. They also said that a bout CBSA 2010 that was a bust in my opinion. Drop and hook operation brobabaly would not be affected much but with shippers not being held accountable and resevers it will effect bottom line. Besides the fact the aided expense with nothing in rates to pay for it and what about sertification if GOV wants to months in to using one of the many out they deside that it is not certified then where would you be.
Worse thing could happen for small business trucking. Has anybody thought of grandfathering this. This Dec is going to be a nightmare. There are a lot of drivers with no clue whats going on. So in close, I'll be closing my company and learn to say "do you want fries that" this Dec
See what happens when you don't stand up together and say NO MORE!!! BACK OFF!! By the way I've got a nice 03 W9&14 Great Dane step for sale
It shouldn't impact the driver it the trucking company that needs to explain the new time restrictions n change this around or the factory (shipper) needs to understand the rule changes start imposing fines on the shippers instead of the drivers
I'm 62 , my dad put me in a 6 wheeler when I turned 16 hauling water to farmers for their livestock , today I haul lubricants pulling tankers throughout the U.S. and I love what I do . I ran the truck at a leisurely pace without a worry in the world , stopped when I wanted , ate descent meals and delivered the loads on time. No I didn't stop for 10 hrs. at night , why , because when I stopped it was to sleep, NOTHING else , I get my fuel and shower and eat sometime during the day after I've loaded or unloaded so I don't need to park for10 hrs just to sleep . Well that has all changed , my company went to elogs a little over 2 years ago and my leisurely life of truck drivin went away , now I play beat the clock all day long . I don't slow down for ANYTHING , I roll through stop signs and that red light better be bright RED all because I'm staring at that clock . We have runs that take every second of the 11hrs to get to the customer and if you don't make it it messes your next day up and possibly the rest of the week , so what happens when I get tired on one of these runs , I keep going no matter what cause like other people I need a paycheck . Eating nice set down meals are no longer part of my day because I'm playing beat the clock ,I eat all my meals in the truck and yes besides my blood pressure being up from playing beat the clock my weights up from eating in the truck all day . I always knew what truck stop I was going to as soon as they give me my load but not anymore , maybe I'll make it or maybe I won't or I sleep at the customer which I NEVER did before or I'm forced to sleep at some place not so safe which I NEVER did before.
I suppose my company went to elogs to make it easier for them to deal with the dot and be compliant if it's going to be mandatory plus keep the ambulance chasers at bay .
With my weight up and blood pressure up now I have to worry when I go get my yearly physical that they'll make me go on the CPAP , we know the CPAP is a cure all .
Elogs are killing me but no one seems to care.
I am against the mandate because it puts an undue financial burden on independents and small fleets, doesn't improve safety and increases the pressure of "racing the clock". I am an owner-operator and have driven under my own authority and am now leased to a carrier that requires ELD's. The biggest reason driving the ELD mandate is isn't so much the big fleets, although they have played a big role, but the litigious society we live. Accident attorneys want nothing better than to prove that a driver violates his hours of service on a regular basis. If they can prove that the logs don't jive for at least 15% of the time, even something as simple as being 3 minutes over on a 30 minute break, then they believe they can win the trucking lottery for their client.
I will give this caveat: I have used an ELD both wired to the truck and as a simple app on my smart phone for the past five years and have not received any log violations. I like the fact that using an electronic device is simple and easy to use. What I would advocate as a compromise with the ELD mandate is to abolish the 14 hour rule so that when the driver stops, the clock stops. Go back to a split sleeper birth for teams and delete the mandatory 30 minute break. If we at least drop the 14 hour rule, drivers will most likely take longer breaks to avoid rush hour traffic, be able to enjoy a good meal instead of fast food and relax their driving habits instead of playing "beat the clock".
i am a otr driver for a major company which has a time schedule with a small window to be at destination. because I am a health conscience person, I stop every 2-3 hrs. to prevent a sedentary lifestyle. This mandate is unhealthy As usual politicians have no idea what goes on in the real world.