Have you looked at those ultrasound pics... have you looked at your baby!? You have a real baby inside you that you are using to let the world have a choice in abortion or birth? If you are unable to see what you are doing is wrong there is something wrong with you. When u miscarry, there was something wrong with the baby but your baby is doing good, growing, becoming a person and your willing to just take that all away bc you think the world should have a choice? You make me so sick inside and I feel so sorry for your baby and wish the baby the best of luck in life . . .which has already began inside of you. A baby is something to treasure, I know because I have two, one who almost died when she was born. And I would do anything if I could to make sure that no baby is intentionally killed ever! So I hope, just hope for one second that you can stop trying to get attention from everyone, stop being selfish and think like a mom and a dad like you are and care about the one thing that matters and that is your child! Have your child, and then if you arenm't ready or decide you don't want kids, give the baby up for adoption bc that baby deserves a life and who are you to beable to make that decision for them?
Summer - 14 years ago
I do not understand the two of you. I am disgusted and shocked at your web site. I hope all this media attention you are getting will end up in your arrests and the baby taken away from you after birth. Then I wish you could both be sterilized. Start preparing the big one is coming for you- KARMA!
Kris - 14 years ago
This unborn child is a timeless being. I am not religious but in the bible, I think the book Ezekiel says "In the womb I knew you." This can be logically extended to "I knew you before you were even conceived"
That can be extended. If you beleive in souls and are religious you recognize that our existence is eternal. We exist whether we are born unto to this earth or not. That child's soul will exist on in eternity whether it is aborted or not. Existence on this earth is but a slice of what is an infinite being, eaqch one of us is an infinite being as we either exist in the mind of god as a spirit and at timnes as a physical creation in some form.
The whole question of abort or not is irrelevant as that child, whether born or not will exist and have a life in some plane of existence, not necessarily on this earth.
No one man or doctor or uncertain parent can change that. So it is realistic to allow people who do not think they can raise a child properly, or do not want a child, or made a mistake, or were raped and impregnated to decide for themselves whether they want to bring that child into the physical world or not.
Christy - 14 years ago
What in the Hell is wrong with you guys?!?! Why would you allow total strangers decide whether to kill your flesh and blood??? There is something wrong with you guys...seriously! This is a living human being inside of you not a thing. God has blessed you with a baby and you are literally gambling with the life of your unborn baby. Unbelievable!!!!
READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ!!!!
DO SOME RESEARCH PEOPLE.
THEY ARE DOING THIS AS PART OF A PRO-LIFE CAMPAIGN. THEY DO NOT INTEND TO ABORT.
Patrick - 14 years ago
Hey,
I hope, that you will read this: I really hope for the baby, that it wont stay at you. I think, that someone should adopt it.If not please kill it.
Why? Because I think, that you are terrible people, because you let the internet decide, if your baby can stay alive..
sorry, but go to the psycho doctor..I hope, that you get healed.
Caring Person - 14 years ago
Don't ruin your life bring a child into this world, just end it.
All it is are a cluster of cells, at this moment, don't do it.
Vince - 14 years ago
Give birth to the child then give it up for adoption, if you need the net to decide this for you then you dont deserve to have children
pregnant mom at risk - 14 years ago
(part 3) For anyone who prays, please pray that God will give us guidance where to seek help for my pregnancy. I don’t know who to turn to, and am worried about finding ethical help after what we have already been through and faced.
I have 3 kids and am pregnant with #4 and I have placenta accreta and am going to have a hysterectomy at birth. I wish more than anything in this world that I could have more babies but the chance is getting taken away from me. Please consider adoption, I personally would give anything to adopt a baby, and if you do decide that route, please contact us!
He's a right wing blogger who goes by the nickname Zeeboid. He has a website (he took down, obviously) to rant about his anti-abortion views: www.zeeboid.com
Feel free to post comments on his business website: http://www.pierrearnold.com/about/
THIS IS ALL A HOAX
ACS - 14 years ago
Please know that many people are praying for you guys, as well as your unborn child. Whether the concept of your site is a hoax or not will not change how many thousands of people already love your baby. Though I don't agree with your intentions whether good or bad, it does make me sad to see all the hateful comments that have been posted by others. Sending love and prayers~
Shannon - 14 years ago
I consider myself pro-choice. So obviously do what you need to do. I think that if you were going to abort you would have done it already. You've come this far so you should finish this pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption since you're so selfish you can't handle changing the status quo. I've had 10 miscarriages. It disgusts me that you have a healthy baby on the way and you don't seem to care while I've had so many losses. I hope you're enjoying your 15 minutes of fame.
dab - 14 years ago
Pity ur parents hadnt hav aborted u!
pregnant mom at risk - 14 years ago
(part 2) Even though I grow worse, their prayers encourage me so much and I have let go of my life, and given it over to God. It is hard to know I may lose my health while this one is so young, that he or she may not get to know me very well, though I pray and hope this is not true. But I am determined to give this little one what I can, I will give this little baby life, as much as it is in my power. And yet I don’t know where to turn for medical help during this pregnancy and have not yet seen a doctor. Why should they care about my unborn baby with how they have let my health go so far, and with the modern day attitude towards the unborn? No christian doctors were willing to help me before I got pregnant, I even contacted the christian american association of doctors -would they be willing to help me and my unborn baby now? It is true becoming a parent will be the biggest change you can ever imagine and will be the hardest thing you ever do, but it is also the most rewarding thing you can ever do. And you are healthy enough to know and love your child well. I hope for the same. Please pray for me and my baby and I will pray for you and yours.
pregnant mom at risk - 14 years ago
Dear Alisha and Pete,
I am due about the same time as you. This is an unplanned pregnancy for my husband and I. We had wanted more children(prior to my injury), but I have deteriorating health issues, from a car accident over 4 years ago. My shoulder and neck were traumatically injured in the accident. My shoulder damage is tightening and pulling on my neck. I can barely use my right arm without pain becoming severe into my neck. If the doctors involved would have surgically repaired my shoulder damage within a year of the accident my neck would not have deteriorated this much. I do not have full medical info, but know I have worsening kyphosis in my neck which can lead to partial, and complete paralysis, loss of bladder and bowel control, and even death in worst cases. It is also a very painful process as it worsens. I suspect it is ‘functional’ scoliosis, which is worsening because of severe damage left in my shoulder, worsening the kyphosis further, but I am not a doctor. When the doctors realized that leaving my shoulder the way they did, caused my severe neck issues it became about cover-up. No one would help us. We sold our house at a loss and took our children traveling to try to get me surgery. People seemed to smell the controversy, and we turned away again and again, even by christian clinics. It seems the same info I need for surgery would prove malpractice. My childhood records were changed to make it look like I had neck issues from before to cover for what was (and they likely knew was going to happen to me). I don’t know how fast I will deteriorate or if I will stabilize. So far I continue to worsen and the pain is so bad often. I was taking a limited amount of medicine to control the pain and keep the muscles more relaxed to slow the damage but have not taken them since learning I was pregnant. I am now too far along to sleep on my back, which is making my neck get worse faster, and I wake after 3 or 4 hours of sleep in such pain I cannot go back to sleep. We had given up on finding medical help before I got pregnant - we did not want to use up the little money we had left, but wanted to leave enough to get into a small house in a remote area, so my husband could afford to financially look after our family, while I continue to get worse, and if I lose more function, so he would not be under so much strain. We must think of our children’s future and decided not to pursue medical help anymore unless God showed us where to go, so that we did not waste the little money we had left. I have been so sick with severe morning sickness as well, and lost almost 10 lbs. I have not yet passed my pre-pregnancy weight. Between the sickness and constant pain it has sometimes felt like torture. My circulation is poor as well (finger and toe nails often blue) and I worry about my baby getting adequate blood and nutrition. Will my baby be damaged? I am scared what will happen with my spine as I grow larger. I am scared of the strain of giving birth. I would be lying to you if I said abortion had not crossed my mind. And yet, I know my older children. Abortion is murder, and how could I have aborted one of my precious 3 older children who I know and love so well? How could I have taken one of their lives? This one I know will be just as precious and unique and is already, a life that God has planned somehow against incredible odds, in the midst of my poor health. My husband and older children have already felt this little one kick against their hands. My baby always has a long wake period between 9 & 11 pm. I tell my husband and children (before they go to bed), when I feel our little one stirring, that ‘baby is awake now’ and my husband and children are excited to hear it. They pray everyday(as before I got pregnant) for God to heal me and in the meantime for God to ease my pain each day, and now they pray for my little baby to grow safely too. Even though I grow worse, their prayers encourage me so much and I have let go of my
Vanessa - 14 years ago
As someone who recently lost a child, I don't think your idea of going about this is right. You have been Blessed with the opportunity that some of us don't have. If I am ever able to carry a baby, I will need constant doctor appointments and bed rest the entire 9 months. I'm not here to judge you as only God should do that. But for the sake of your soul, if you don't think you will make a good mother, put the baby up for adoption so that the people in the world who can't conceive can have a chance to be parents. I think it is totally ignorant that you are relying on people whom you don't know to help with your decision. Please allow this child to live and give it up for adoption.
Mac - 14 years ago
Agreed Rata Sunshine, i think this site is defo fake - apart from my personal opinion that nobody could actually be so retarded, ESPECIALLY after having miscarriages - there is no way a personal website could sustain a 4chan attack, they have made WALMARTS site crash before, so the server that this bad boy is on has serious abilities... i.e. monies. Definitely seems like a stunt to me. But still - these two are complete fucking idiots
Holiday - 14 years ago
I am pro-choice, have had an abortion, will always be pro-choice and will always support womens rights...
However, this is just ridiculous.
Give birth to this kid and then give the child up for adoption to non-crazy people.
If do decide to keep this child and raise this child, please do not ever ever tell this kid about your dumb ass experiment.
Admiral Ackbar - 14 years ago
You're going to abort the thing anyway, might as well do it now and have it done. Lulzy blog, by the way.
Raya Sunshine - 14 years ago
I think that if you are honestly asking the public what they should do, for attention or publicity, then you don't deserve to be parents. This is heartless and tactless to hang the life of your child in the balance of public opinion. It's also irresponsible. That baby is living and breathing and growing inside of you and because you LOST the previous three, your willing to KILL this one, to give yourself more time to heal emotionally? If you've been pregnant 3 times previously, isn't a baby what you WANT??
I don't get it. I think this child doesn't deserve you as parents, as didn't the previous three, obviously. She/He might be better off, having never been born.
I'd vote "life" but for some reason, I don't think you guys are serious (parents couldn't be this heartless), and I believe this to be a tasteless hoax.
Jo - 14 years ago
I'm not sure if this is some sort of ploy to create controversy or if you are serious. Why are you wanting other people, who don't know you, to make this decision for you? I would encourage you to go through with this pregnancy and if you don't want the child after you give birth, or simply can't afford a baby at this time, that you put him/her up for adoption. There are plenty of women who are unable to have children who would love to adopt from you, me included in this. I encourage you to give birth to this baby. Please give him/her a chance.
S - 14 years ago
This comment section is terrible because it gets ride space between paragraphs leading to HUGE WALLS OF TEXT that nobody wants to read. Anyway, I'll just post the most important link from my last post. COPY AND PASTE THIS: http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2010/11/19/abortionvote-website-antichoice-trolling-fail
Mac - 14 years ago
Ok, antimac (by the way, i'm flattered - thanks =]) are you possibly maybe a little bit drunk? Who's your money on for being the trolls to create a bigger ban hammer than the US? I'm thinking Iran, i'd LOVE to see that due in charge man - he'd defo put a jihad on these dickheads!
S - 14 years ago
The game is up guys: http://jezebel.com/5693386/internet-abortion-vote-looking-like-an-anti+choice-prank
Also, your husband is clearly Pro-life: http://www.dkosopedia.com/w/index.php?title=Pro-choice&oldid=69009
Also, you created this site in May: http://www.whois.net/whois/birthornot.com
Fail.
N - 14 years ago
My question to you is this; "If Christ would ask you the same question about life,that pretains to Your own life or your spouse, what would your vote be?" May God give you wisdom and understanding. Know that all of us are but one precious breath away from death. You could be next. Think and Pray is my advice.
mgarrom - 14 years ago
I just would like to understand why you are doing this. Do you think as people see the baby growing, they will change their minds about abortion or something? I just can't think of any other reason.
I hope you don't really mean this.
God bless you.
Something of a furore has blown up over the big pond over a website – www.birthornot.com – which purports to running an online vote which will decide whether a married couple will have their unborn child aborted.
The smart money suggests that the site is fake and, most likely, an anti-abortion stunt following checks on the site’s domain registration information which show that the domain name was registered several weeks before the couple claim to have conceived.
The Ministry of Truth [Me] has now found evidence linking this site to a climate change denier site ‘The Church of Global Warming‘.
Although both sites have been registered anonymously, examination of each site’s source code shows that both sites have their web traffic monitored from the same Google Analytics account – UA-7524334.This clearly suggests that boths sites are being operated by the same – as yet unidentified – individual(s) and, given the content and tone of the ‘Church of Global Warming’ site, that the abortion vote site is a right-wing conservative hoax.
UPDATE
5 Eyewitness news have a report on this story which identifies the site owners as Pete and Alisha Arnold of Apple Valley, Minnesota.
The key info here is a claim that the unborn foetus will be 17 weeks old on Friday (19th Nov), which puts the date of conception at around the end of July/beginning of August.
The Whois records for the site – as the Slate article correctly notes – give a registration date for the domain name of 17th May, a minimum of 9-10 weeks before conception.
UPDATE
Jeff Fecke at Blog of the Moderate Left seems to have nailed down the lid on this hoax…
Ah, but it gets better. You see, Pierre “Pete” Arnold III also used to be a “researcher, contributor, and part time producer for the Race to the Right radio show in St Cloud.” He blogged at Always Right, Usually Correct, which had a hard anti-choice bent. He used the aliases “The Pete” and “Zeeboid” — indeed, the latter is both a domain he owns and the userid for his gmail account — but it’s not that hard to track down. He operates (or used to operate) a site called “The Church of Global Warming.”
Yes, you say, but it’s still possible that the Arnolds are that rarest of creatures, the radical conservative pro-choicer.2
To which I say…remember that I told you Pete likes the name “Zeeboid?” And that he uses it as his gmail handle? Well, what do we have here — it’s an edit in the dKosopedia for “Pro-choice.” An edit on July 16, 2006, by user “Zeeboid.” Behold, Pete Arnold’s early days of trolling
The term “pro-choice” is used by men and women who support a woman’s right to kill an unborn child.
The term means that a woman has the right to determine whether or not she will be pregnant by killing a baby that has already been conceived.
Also Refered to as Pro Abortion
And…we’re done here. Pete Arnold is an anti-choice troll.
aretheyserious? - 14 years ago
So many people are shocked by this. How could they leave whether their unborn baby is aborted up to the whims of a popular vote? That's exactly the point I think they are trying to make. If it shocks us that an individual couple would do this, they might argue that it is even more shocking that we (as a society) do this on a larger scale, by whom we vote into office. That's what I think they're up to. Don't fall for it. I don't for a minute believe they are considering aborting this baby. As time goes on, they will draw even more outrage as those especially concerned about late term abortions weigh in. Again, this is their whole intent. To create outrage and then say, "If it's not o.k. for us to decide whether to keep or abort our baby based on the votes of the American public, then it's not o.k. for our country to do the same."
The antimac - 14 years ago
Not we're not retarded, we just know that there aint shit anybody can do it. If the wordl were the internet, America would be /b/. Just a bunch of trolls really Someone one will invent a bigger ban hammer(aka bomb) than ours someday then THEY can be the trolls and the world can hate THEM.
K - 14 years ago
As a pro-choicer, I voted for BOTH, because "pro-choice" means it's YOUR choice, not anyone else's, as YOU are the ones who will bear the consequences of either choice.
Rob - 14 years ago
having a child is one of the most profound decisions anyone can make. If you have to have a poll to make the decision you are not ready to be a parent. This is the most personal of decisions and should not be decided by a vote nor should the government control or influence the decision. Good Luck, you'll need it
Me - 14 years ago
Are you guys retarded or what?
sad - 14 years ago
should think 1 can you afford to give the baby a good life or a good home for adoption if not i dont see a reason why you should not make an abortion but its your own doing and own responcibility to do what ever is going to be done not a freaking web poll
seriously this kinda things happen when wrong people get doing some sideways mambo thinking nothing will happen and when some people actually struggle to get kids.
Mac - 14 years ago
oh no wait, sorry - i thought we were talking about Swedish girls for a second there. Na, everyone else in the world is fed-the-fuck-up of you to be honest
Que tristeza que no tengan la capacidad mental para tomar una desición tan importante. Es que es una parte de ustedes. Piensen si sus madres hubiesen tenido en tan poca estima sus vidas. donde estarían ahora?
Discrete - 14 years ago
Please carry the baby to birth. It is not your baby. The baby is his/her own person, a gift from God. If you choose to parent the baby then you will be parents, and hopefully grow in wisdom. If you choose to let your baby be adopted by a couple who are longing to be parents, but are unable to, you are allowing this precious gift to fulfill a family. There are pregnancy centers in your area that can help you, there are churches that can help you.
Mac - 14 years ago
LOL, i love americans...
Child of God - 14 years ago
Lord God, I thank you today for the gift of my life,
And for the lives of all my brothers and sisters.
I know there is nothing that destroys more life than abortion,
Yet I rejoice that you have conquered death
by the Resurrection of Your Son.
I am ready to do my part in ending abortion.
Today I commit myself
Never to be silent,
Never to be passive,
Never to be forgetful of the unborn.
I commit myself to be active in the pro-life movement,
And never to stop defending life
Until all my brothers and sisters are protected,
And our nation once again becomes
A nation with liberty and justice
Not just for some, but for all.
Through Christ our Lord. Amen!
Lenny Fucking Sucks donkey dick - 14 years ago
Hey, "Lenny" The moment your opened your mouth and spouted religious dogma, your opinion became invalid. If you want to feel high and mighty because you think you have some invisible zombiefied jew on your side, then you go right ahead mister. And as for you teaching me ANYTHING, you aint even one-tenth the man you'd need to be for that bucko. You can shove your natural law and morality right up your ass till you taste it. Or get your closet boyfriend to do it for you.
Anonymous - 14 years ago
Of course you should abort - anybody who's willing to do a stunt like this to try to spread their fundie belief system will just end up raising a future suicide bomber anyways. Or were you planning on having the little "angel" help start the race war via a different method?
Chelsea - 14 years ago
Put it up for adoptions. you're clearly not fit to be parents
Lenny - 14 years ago
Hey, "none of your GD business". YOU ARE THE MORON PLAIN AND SIMPLE! God creates life, therefore he can take it away. Only God can decide, not you, me or these confused parents. The rest of your rant is complete ignorance and I don't have time to teach you natural law and morality. Maybe start by reading a good book, assuming you know how to read.
Carrie - 14 years ago
The Lord bless you and keep you. The Lord make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you. The Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.
STILL none of your goddamned business - 14 years ago
And to little miss Cathy up there who says that no one who calls the fetus a 'baby' will abort. YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT. That is the most unsound logic I have ever heard in my entire life. People kill 'baby' every fucking day, you dumb cunt. That shit was so stupid I hid under my chair for fear that the vacuum inside your head where your brain should be would pull down the moon at any moment.
Mac - 14 years ago
TROLOLOLOLOLOL ^^^^
Stacey - 14 years ago
I think you should have the baby but then put it up for adoption since you're obviously unfit parents. If you weren't sure if you wanted a baby or not you should have put on a condom you bloody morons. I feel sorry for that baby if you keep it.
None of your goddamned business - 14 years ago
Oh wow, I have never in my life seen such a collection of incredible idiots and hypocrites as there are on this page. Nothing brings out the bible thumpers like an abortion debate eh? I guess they're all forgetting the God himself killed babies, innocent ones too, or have we forgotten the lesson taught to the pharaoh? All those first borns didnt do shit, they had no choice and no voice, but they were killed just to teach some prick a lesson! Merciful God huh. Not all fluffy clouds and rainbows anymore is it? And you pro-choice idots. Your not getting out of this either. Every time one of you opens your fucking trap, all you hear is 'it's HER choice, it's HER body, it's HER right!' well guess what NO THE FUCK IT AINT. She sure as hell didnt make that baby by herself did she? She didnt wake up that morning and take some magical pregnancy pill did she? NO a MAN helped her make that baby, and that baby is every bit as much his as hers. I dont give a good flying fuck if it's living in your body or not, it's not wholly yours. in my PERSONAL opinion, abortion should require the consent of BOTH parents provided they are present, and if the consent is denied by EITHER that woman should be FORCED to carry that baby to term, even if you have to chain her to a fucking bed and spoon feed her apple sauce every day. And you lost all right to bitch about it when YOU hit your back and threw your heels in the fucking air without taking any precautions. Either spit out the dick or spit out the kid, period. The ONLY people on here that have ANY right to say ANYTHING are the people who are saying 'I am not voting on this.' They are the only people on here with any semblance of intelligence at all. If you voted in this stupid, STUPID poll, whether birth OR abortion, then you became just as bad as the people who posted it the second you clicked 'vote'. And the reason is because YOU are enabling them! You are giving these fucking schmucks exactly what they want, ATTENTION! None of you have any right what-so-fucking-ever to try and tell anybody what they should do. Half of you fuckers screaming you want to adopt it already got so many ankle biters in your house you cant spit without hitting one, or you've never had a child and have no clue how much work goes into raising one! And half of you morons screaming for abortion probably wouldn't be here if your fucking mothers could have afforded an abortion themselves. ALL OF YOU NEED TO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. And as for you two who started all this, oh yes, I didnt forget you, WHAT in the bleeding, blistered bowls of hell do you think you are DOING?!? Do you honestly expect for one sodomizing second that I believe this poll is going to have any bearing what so ever on your decision? You two are nothing more than low life, petty, fucked up attention whores. Except for the female, SHE is an attention whore, and just a regular ole' whore-whore to boot. If you wanted the baby, GREAT, pop out the little shit factory and Shut the hell up about it. If you DIDNT want it, well then keep your fucking knees together you dumb bitch! OR the guy, that malignant stain on the underwear of society, could have used this great new invention called a condom. HOLY SHIT, YOU MEAN I CAN HAVE SEX WITHOUT MAKING BABIES OR PULLING OUT!?!? Well yes indeedy you can, it's fucking magical, or magical fucking, which ever you prefer. You two have already made your choice, and most of the world knows it. The ONLY thing I will ask, nay, BEG of you, is this: If you have decided to have an abortion, dont go to the doctor. Do myself and the rest of the world a favor and step in from of a speeding bus. Be sure to drag that retarded man-child who dosent seem to know how babies are made along with you. Because if I know anything, it's that I dont need you, or anyone LIKE you on my fucking world, polluting up all of my fucking air, with your incessant fucking clamoring for the over rated spotlight.
TL;DR-->Fuck this nonsense.
Mac - 14 years ago
I'd like to expand on a point made by Maggie: You are putting your babies life to vote. So, after this poll has been finished, can we expect a similar vote on your lives? "Should we kill ourselves for being so fucking stupid, ignorant, and ungrateful for the gift of life?". Pretty sure the outcome would be a resounding "yes please, you fucking idiots"
seth dragon - 14 years ago
I think this is one giant hoax. I guess it proves one thing however, America is MUCH more prolife than the media wants us to believe.
Cathy - 14 years ago
You will not abort regardless the vote. Proof: You're calling your child a "baby". One does not kill a baby. All proponents of abortion will only *ever* refer to an unborn baby as a foetus!
Gougouroube - 14 years ago
Shame on you... poor child!!
tammypeterson@live.com - 14 years ago
How could you not have the natural feelings of love and protection for your own child. How could you kill your OWN CHILD????
Mizme - 14 years ago
Part of me has to believe that this is all a stunt for some kind of research project or whatever. All I can say is that if this is for real, one day you both will meet your maker and have to face judgement for your actions. Karma is a bitch.
I do not understand. You talk of 2 planned pregnancies that sadly ended in miscarriage. Why now then are you considering abortion? You are getting prenatal care and following the doctors orders, why if you are considering killing your baby? It makes no sense.
I am sicked at the thought that you are still even contemplating it when you can feel your baby move inside you. I used to be pro choice but as I have gotten older, I have gotten wiser and realize that Pro Life is the only way to go. (with only extreme exceptions for rape, incest victims, or if mothers life is in jeopardy)
I have tried for 6 years to have a baby and have succeeded in becoming pregnant only once in that time. Sadly it ended in miscarriage for me. With my own fertiliity issues it makes it so hard to even think about what you may do to that life inside of you.
The guilt and shame one feels from having an abortion will haunt you forever. I know, I had one when I was 20 and afraid. It was the absolute biggest mistake in my life! I will always feel that I am being punished for that which is why I am not able to conceive now.
I also must say that if you do choose to have this baby, I seriously hope that you are investigated by child protetcive services and that the baby is taken care of and loved. I do not see how anyone in tehir right mind could create asite like this and use an innocent life to make money, attact attention or whatever your twisted motivations are.
leanne - 14 years ago
Have the baby and give it the life it deserves... give it up for adoption to better parents. and seriously... 3 miscarriages and no birthcontrol at 17.. wtf???? you are morons
Maggie - 14 years ago
I cannot believe you would put your baby's life to a vote. Will you put your own life to a vote next?
Bipper - 14 years ago
I agree sith sparky and john. give him up for adoption and repent. Don't let this poor child ever discover what you are doing.
sparky - 14 years ago
As sad as this appears to be, perhaps a good outcome could result out of this, hopefully. I do believe the baby has a right to life. I've seen videos of abortions and what they do, and what the baby goes through before it finally dies, is horrific! The baby, even a young fetus, shows signs of fear and pain, and if women considering abortion saw what happens, it would deterr most, I,m sure! I think the responsible thing to do is let the baby come to term and give it up for adoption so it can go into a loving home.
shugE - 14 years ago
please abort this baby i am hungry for fetus pizza
Mac - 14 years ago
@ michaeltc
"Please excuse the morons and idiots for attacking you."
YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT
and you certainly don't speak for me - these people shouldn't be allowed to breed
John - 14 years ago
Give birth and then think seriously of adoption and repentance for this evil and disgusting website. Imagine how your child will feel when he discovers that his parents failed to love and chose to place his life up for a vote. It would be better that your child be placed in a loving home and never discovers who you are.
I am a pro-choice female who had an abortion, but I am overwhelmed and disgusted by what you're doing. The decision I made was a difficult one, something I weighed heavily and in the end, believe was the right choice for me.
Your cavalier actions, your pointless stunt, they make a mockery of couples who find themselves in a similar position.
*n
sarahshocked - 14 years ago
WOW!!! so sick, so wrong. Woman's personal choice is not circus game show choice...Please stop this.
samantha - 14 years ago
I think you should give birth, and then give the baby up for adoption.
I don't think that you will be able to forgive yourself if you kill the baby, just look at the pictures of your echo!
michaeltc - 14 years ago
Hope you choose to have the baby, even if you give it up for adoption. Please excuse the morons and idiots for attacking you.
Abby - 14 years ago
Why not have the baby and give it to some loving family that can't have children. its not rubbishe that you can put in the bin. i have been married for 16 and dont have the choice you have as i cant have children your crushing my heart
RRR - 14 years ago
You people are sick .. you don't deserve this God's Gift.. feel sorry for the unborn baby (either ways) to have such biological parents.
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Christie - 14 years ago
I am not here to jjudge, this is still your decision. I am 100% pro-choice. But I am not really sure I agree in late term abortion. You have seen this ( in your words ) your baby how could your do this at this late stage. I have had an abortion but never past seven weeks I never felt a heartbeat or movement dont abort what could be your only chance to be come a mom>>>>>> Good Luck to all three of you guys
Joy - 14 years ago
To abort or not to abort? Don't abort. Please. Don't even consider it further. My name is Joy as you can obviously see. I'd prefer not to give out my full name. I am 14 years old. While I was still in my mother's womb, the doctor informd my parents that at the rate I was growing, I was to be born retarded and deformed. My parents considered aborting me. The fact that they even CONSIDERED it still TORMENTS me every day. The fact that for a second there, perhaps a very long second that streched into a couple weeks - they seriously considered not giving me a chance to grow up. I just can't grasp why anyone who could have a child would give that the child up. I mean sure I can see all the factors that lead to such a decision, and I'm truly sorry that your past pregnancies have failed thus far. Yet, right now, this child in the mother's womb looks to be growing up perfectly healthy. I'm so sorry that you're even debating his/her life. You have to trust that this child will be born safely. You can't immediately doubt the child's safety based on previous experiences; you have to give this child the opportunity to prove itself. You have to put all your faith into this because if you don't then this is going to continue to torment you, and it may torment the child in the future. A lot of people in my family sided with my parent's decision to abort me, yet in the end, my grandmother, the one person against such a horrendous idea, overruled them all - luckily. When I was finally born, I proved the doctor wrong: I am not reatarded and I am not deformed. Today, I am still proving the doctor wrong, and I'm only doing this because I was actually given the CHANCE to.
Melissa - 14 years ago
Please please please please abort your American brat in the making (literally) - we'll have one less greedy fuck on this planet to contend with). If you won't do it for me, do it for the environment or Canada
urfkindumb - 14 years ago
all i can say is ATTENTION WHORES! i hope you enjoy your 15 minutes and your burn in hell one you kill your baby
jordis7 - 14 years ago
Yes, every woman should be free to decide whether to give birth or not. Yes, unwanted pregnancies do occur, even nowadays. BUT: I think you are too advancced in your pregnancy. During the first few weeks the baby is just a lump of cells, multiplying and multiplying. But by now, it has arms and legs, it moves, it turns away if it feels pain etc. I am not against abortion in general. But I am against late abortion and I am against abortion for the worng reasons. And abortion because of a majority of people unknown to you and not knowing you and not knowing your circumstances is surely among 'wrong reasons'. Keep this child, and give him/her a home. Period. And if you find it in your heart be happy about being able to conceive and carry to term, if it comes to that. Not every couple is so blessed.
Lukas - 14 years ago
YOU guys are so damn crazy... you really think your baby will love you when he/she grows up and find out his life was given to teh internetz? Please DONT HAVE THE BABY, otherwise you are going to make 90 years of suffering for one little person. OR have the baby and give it to some SANE people. ALSO DONT EVER HAVE A FUCKIN BABY, you are not mentally ready for this and you will never be.
annonymous - 14 years ago
if you were not ready for parenthood, then you should have used birth control instead of killing off a perfectly healthy fetus that was conceived in an act of love between a man and woman
angryMomof2 - 14 years ago
I have NO idea how you can see that ultra-sound and hear that babies heart beat and still even CONSIDER an abortion! You are a cold hearted bitch who is commiting murder. I hope you burn in hell
flint - 14 years ago
Kill yourself too.
taj - 14 years ago
Boy, I've been reading some of the comments. And the one that said she was "educated" and encouraged you to have an abortion made me come back to respond.
I voted for LIFE. "Death and life" are in the power of the tongue. God even told His people, "Choose life."
Back the "educated" woman. She encouraged you to have an abortion, and that she didn't have a regret. She said to consider how the baby would feel when it grows up and had to deal with knowing its parents didn't want her / him. I would ask ... what about the baby that was aborted, once back in heaven, realizes her / his mother KILLED it? Is it easier to deal with the fact a parent "can't" take care of it, or the fact a parent "won't" deal with it? I would say it would be much easier for me to know my parents couldn't take care of me instead of killing me.
The "educated" woman is ignorant. Killing or adopting. Murderers or parents who adopt?
Either way, whether you are going to adopt or abort, you are parents. That baby is alive at this point. Let it live, and let him . her become all God wants it to be. That baby has a heartbeat. A heart beat means it's living. Please don't make the baby's heart stop.
Ashley K - 14 years ago
I am ashamed to know that you are from Minnesota. How can you let some stupid internet poll decide the fate of you baby? What if you have the baby and he/she grows up and finds out about this. I bet that would hurt them very much. DO you even realize what you are doing? I understand that people want attention but I didn’t know that they would go to this extreme to get it. You know what bothers me the most? You get the choice to kill your baby but if someone caused you great bodily harm while you were pregnant and it killed the baby, they would be charged with murder. I think that you are obviously immature and unfit parents. I hope that you give the baby up for adoption. One day you will have to answer to Christ for doing this, and if you kill your baby, I hope that God punishes you. I have 2 children and abortion never crossed my mind. Are you really that selfish? You had the fun of making the child, now take care of it or let someone else who can’t have children take care of the baby. I feel so sorry for your child for having a poor excuse for parents like you. Whether you like to admit it or not you already are parents since a living human being dwells within you. Have you watched abortion procedures? Babies try to move away from the stuff that kills them, you can see it on an ultrasound screen. Some doctors rip them limb from limb. That makes me sick! To me it makes no difference if you kill it in the womb or you’re the crazy lady down the street that drowned her baby.
Pro choice - 14 years ago
This is obviously fake and done by pro life campaigners as anyone in their right mind who would was considering an abortion would not write such a description of the fetus like that and put up the scans. I voted abort, as I believe that if you are not ready for a family emotionally and financially then the baby is better off not being brought into this world. As for all those who say give it up for adoption, I'm sure being bounced around foster families is a bundle of laughs for a child there are not enough families who want children already to take in all the abandoned children in the world.
To all those who say they would adopt, how about adopting a unwanted child, a sick child, an older child, a black child, a hispanic child, a mentally ill child, stop being so selfish with what you want and give an unwanted child a home.
linda - 14 years ago
If there was one thing you guys can do that will impact and make a difference in a other person life, it will be your own child, give your child the gift of life and if your don't want your child, and you are crazy for not wanting your child, you can give your child another gift and that is a home, adoption, to a family who will love your child and take of your child because your are to selfish to take care, and to love your own baby/ your own child. Our Lord in haven love you both so very much more then you well ever know and your child that he as blessed you with. if you are scared about being parents Trust in the Lord and do not listen to other people. God will direct you and give you wisdom in the right direction. This is your decision no one else can make this chose for you, and I can't believe that you have this poll. PLEASE, PLEASE don't kill your own child PLEASE! It breaks my heart to hear that you are thinking about it, being a mom, a dad is the best thing ever.
Mac - 14 years ago
Only in America could assholes turn something like this into some sort of pathetic reality event to get their 2 minutes of 'fame' - no wonder the whole world thinks you are all a bunch of total dickheads!
If you aren't sure if you should have a baby - DON'T FUCKING HAVE A BABY
Yocalkey - 14 years ago
What next. I am very pro-choice. But this is not pro-choice. This is playing games. I feel sorry for this child. So my question what next? Maybe you will poll whether you should smack or not smack. Give medication to your sick child or not? This child will have a pile of evidence to support a lawsuit against his own parents... if he has the chance to live. Now that is mind boggling isn't it.
Dallas R. - 14 years ago
I want to know why your even asking this question. Why wold anyone have an abortion? That would make you a murder, to kill an innocent, breathing baby who just wants to live. Your baby that's breathing in your stomach, can feel, hear, and smell. Your baby is alive, and your deciding whether or not to kill it? Shame.
And this is coming from a thirteen year old who knows that life is important. And why kill this baby? There are people out there who would sell their own teeth for a child of their own, and again, you consider to kill it or not?!
fozz - 14 years ago
although i've chosen give birth, i'm questioning whether it would be right for you to even be parents. putting a poll online which allows complete strangers to decide the fate of your unborn child, your own flesh and blood, is just fucking wrong.
elle - 14 years ago
i'm so sick of 'saving the innocent life of a child' bullshit.
Michelle Howsley - 14 years ago
Have the baby. Take the best care of yourself as possible during your pregnancy. The body in question is not yours, Alisha. It is your child's. You are briefly incubating your child's body, but that is all. You do not have the right to dictate to your child what to do with his/her body. Your right to choose ended when you chose to have unprotected sex.
Like many others, I echo the sentiment that adoption is the best alternative for an unplanned pregnancy. Thousands of couples desperately want children but cannot conceive for one reason or another.
Should you choose an abortion, you and Pete will be held accountable for it. The Family: A Proclamation to the World tells us, "We affirm the sanctity of life and of its importance in God's eternal plan.
"Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. 'Children are an heritage of the Lord' (Psalms 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them to love and serve one another, to observe the commandments of God and to be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives—mothers and fathers—will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations...
"We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets."
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I watched ALLLL of their YOUTUBE videos before they made them private and the channel private, so the next time I'm back in MN I can recognize them, their friends and family. Screenshots...
Oh- and for those of you who missed the videos you didn't miss much, a trip to DC on freedom trail, looking at plymoth rock, thanksgiving, lots of "rawk"ing out in their living room with friends with guitar hero stuff, his obsession w/his car, running all of their vehicles at the same time on earth day (oh and we have a screen shot of another license plate to track)
They do not intend to kill their baby. They want 10 seconds of fame- congrats you got it...but I guarantee prolife OR prochoice people hate your GUTS either way for the stupid stunt.
I think they were trying to prove a point-that when we go to "normal" voting polls, we are ultimately doing the same voting that his happening on their sorry web page=except we have faces and ultrasounds to go with it. (I would have thought computer people could've done a nicer job - although his editing on a video of Anna making a King cake was alright) I would have also thought they would've used different usernames OTHER than their license plate. That's just plain dumb and left a "right-winged" trail, and made it OBVIOUS these daft people are looking for their 10 seconds.
I HOPE that EVERY TIME these two buffoons go out in public, people let them know how absolutely stupid they are for the rest of their lives...I know I would...and I've called on my Minneapolis friends to seek them out...
What's sad is that their poor kid-Wiggles-is going to grow up w/them, hear about it at school, and likely be relentlessly teased about it...just like his parents.
OH. And I AM prolife, and I understand that there are A LOT of prochoice people that aren't pro-abortion...I get that...but I'm one of those people that believe life begins at conception, and that's when the soul is created...
Carr - 14 years ago
How can you face murder so flippantly?
Anon - 14 years ago
PUBLICITY STUNT AND HOAX DOMAIN WAS REGISTERED BEFORE CHILD WAS SUPPOSEDLY CONCEIVED
COUPLE ARE RIGHT-WING BLOGGER AND FACEBOOK FANS OF GLEN BECK
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS PUBLICITY STUNT THE SITE IS BULLSH*T
ladyjo420 - 14 years ago
I believe you guys will do the right thing for you. If you are ready to have a child, you will. If you aren't, you have to do what you have to. I got pregnant when I was 17. I had a great job, a lot of my own stuff and I wasn't ready for the responsibilities and what I would have had to sacrifice to have a kid. It was my responsibility, because I did the deed. But people have to make their own decisions. I understand why you ask for votes from strangers. It does help in the decision. It really is up to you to have the baby, abort or opt out for adoption. I know I wouldn't have been able to hand my baby over to some stranger whether I wanted it to begin with or not, but that is just me. You seem like strong people, to be handling the things people say to you about your choice. Isn't that why we live in America? For the freedom to make our own choices? Whether they be a situation like this or what college to go to. We all have our own choices to make, and sometimes we don't always make the right ones, but we make up for it somehow. Good luck in your decision. :) {BTW: I didn't vote.}
Cris - 14 years ago
Sorry, once you take a picture, you can't have an abortion. Just like once you name a calf you can't butcher it. It's just the law of the land.
Anon - 14 years ago
PUBLICITY STUNT
AND HOAX
DOMAIN WAS REGISTERED
BEFORE CHILD WAS
SUPPOSEDLY CONCEIVED
COUPLE ARE RIGHT-WING BLOGGER
AND FACEBOOK FANS OF GLEN BECK
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS PUBLICITY STUNT
THE SITE IS BULLSH*T
LOL - 14 years ago
So what happens if you don't have an abortion and the child finds this website or mention of it in the news in a few years?
Yea that's gonna be awkward... I'm sure this child will grow up in a very healthy environment.
rgh3000 - 14 years ago
i voted for you to give birth. I am very much aligned with the pro-choice camp, but I feel that abortion should only be used in extreme circumstances. It is a human being, and you are ending a life. Uncertainty is not enough of a reason to choose abortion. If you are uncertain whether you want a child or not, the proper precautions can and should be made before a pregnancy could occur.
Melissa - 14 years ago
wow what a bunch of sick F's you are. Your asking complete strangers if YOU should have an abortion and putting fucking votes on A BABIES LIFE?!?! wtf is wrong with you? Don't ask other people to play God for you, grown some balls AND MAKE THE DECISION YOURSELF. Its YOUR fault your pregnant, so DEAL WITH IT. You have an abortion, that is murder....the HEART IS BEATING in that child! Fake or not you are cold hearted, cruel, ignorant bastards. Kill yourselves and save the kid. You should be grateful that your even pregnant at all considering you don't deserve it, or anything for that matter. Either have the baby and have it hate you for the rest of its life when it finds out how little their parents wanted it or die during childbirth cause you deserve it.
blazenka - 14 years ago
you guys are so stupid you shouldn't be alound to procreate ,, think about it you are asking a bunch of strangers to help you decide if you wanna be parents when the obvious answer is ..IF YOU HAVE TO ASK ITS FUCKING NO FUCKWITS ...
and if you have him now imagine how he will feel if he ever finds out when hes older .. wow my parents didnt know if they wanted me or not so they put it to a vote around the world.
All i can say is as a parent of three you two do not deserve the privalige of being a parent to a loving child.
ps get your tubes tied BOTH OF YOU SAVE THE WORLD FROM THIS AGAIN.
Have you looked at those ultrasound pics... have you looked at your baby!? You have a real baby inside you that you are using to let the world have a choice in abortion or birth? If you are unable to see what you are doing is wrong there is something wrong with you. When u miscarry, there was something wrong with the baby but your baby is doing good, growing, becoming a person and your willing to just take that all away bc you think the world should have a choice? You make me so sick inside and I feel so sorry for your baby and wish the baby the best of luck in life . . .which has already began inside of you. A baby is something to treasure, I know because I have two, one who almost died when she was born. And I would do anything if I could to make sure that no baby is intentionally killed ever! So I hope, just hope for one second that you can stop trying to get attention from everyone, stop being selfish and think like a mom and a dad like you are and care about the one thing that matters and that is your child! Have your child, and then if you arenm't ready or decide you don't want kids, give the baby up for adoption bc that baby deserves a life and who are you to beable to make that decision for them?
I do not understand the two of you. I am disgusted and shocked at your web site. I hope all this media attention you are getting will end up in your arrests and the baby taken away from you after birth. Then I wish you could both be sterilized. Start preparing the big one is coming for you- KARMA!
This unborn child is a timeless being. I am not religious but in the bible, I think the book Ezekiel says "In the womb I knew you." This can be logically extended to "I knew you before you were even conceived"
That can be extended. If you beleive in souls and are religious you recognize that our existence is eternal. We exist whether we are born unto to this earth or not. That child's soul will exist on in eternity whether it is aborted or not. Existence on this earth is but a slice of what is an infinite being, eaqch one of us is an infinite being as we either exist in the mind of god as a spirit and at timnes as a physical creation in some form.
The whole question of abort or not is irrelevant as that child, whether born or not will exist and have a life in some plane of existence, not necessarily on this earth.
No one man or doctor or uncertain parent can change that. So it is realistic to allow people who do not think they can raise a child properly, or do not want a child, or made a mistake, or were raped and impregnated to decide for themselves whether they want to bring that child into the physical world or not.
What in the Hell is wrong with you guys?!?! Why would you allow total strangers decide whether to kill your flesh and blood??? There is something wrong with you guys...seriously! This is a living human being inside of you not a thing. God has blessed you with a baby and you are literally gambling with the life of your unborn baby. Unbelievable!!!!
She's not pregnant she is just a fatty. ABORT!!!
READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ READ!!!!
DO SOME RESEARCH PEOPLE.
THEY ARE DOING THIS AS PART OF A PRO-LIFE CAMPAIGN. THEY DO NOT INTEND TO ABORT.
Hey,
I hope, that you will read this: I really hope for the baby, that it wont stay at you. I think, that someone should adopt it.If not please kill it.
Why? Because I think, that you are terrible people, because you let the internet decide, if your baby can stay alive..
sorry, but go to the psycho doctor..I hope, that you get healed.
Don't ruin your life bring a child into this world, just end it.
All it is are a cluster of cells, at this moment, don't do it.
Give birth to the child then give it up for adoption, if you need the net to decide this for you then you dont deserve to have children
(part 3) For anyone who prays, please pray that God will give us guidance where to seek help for my pregnancy. I don’t know who to turn to, and am worried about finding ethical help after what we have already been through and faced.
I have 3 kids and am pregnant with #4 and I have placenta accreta and am going to have a hysterectomy at birth. I wish more than anything in this world that I could have more babies but the chance is getting taken away from me. Please consider adoption, I personally would give anything to adopt a baby, and if you do decide that route, please contact us!
HIS NAME IS PIERRE ARNOLD.
He's a right wing blogger who goes by the nickname Zeeboid. He has a website (he took down, obviously) to rant about his anti-abortion views: www.zeeboid.com
Feel free to post comments on his business website: http://www.pierrearnold.com/about/
THIS IS ALL A HOAX
Please know that many people are praying for you guys, as well as your unborn child. Whether the concept of your site is a hoax or not will not change how many thousands of people already love your baby. Though I don't agree with your intentions whether good or bad, it does make me sad to see all the hateful comments that have been posted by others. Sending love and prayers~
I consider myself pro-choice. So obviously do what you need to do. I think that if you were going to abort you would have done it already. You've come this far so you should finish this pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption since you're so selfish you can't handle changing the status quo. I've had 10 miscarriages. It disgusts me that you have a healthy baby on the way and you don't seem to care while I've had so many losses. I hope you're enjoying your 15 minutes of fame.
Pity ur parents hadnt hav aborted u!
(part 2) Even though I grow worse, their prayers encourage me so much and I have let go of my life, and given it over to God. It is hard to know I may lose my health while this one is so young, that he or she may not get to know me very well, though I pray and hope this is not true. But I am determined to give this little one what I can, I will give this little baby life, as much as it is in my power. And yet I don’t know where to turn for medical help during this pregnancy and have not yet seen a doctor. Why should they care about my unborn baby with how they have let my health go so far, and with the modern day attitude towards the unborn? No christian doctors were willing to help me before I got pregnant, I even contacted the christian american association of doctors -would they be willing to help me and my unborn baby now? It is true becoming a parent will be the biggest change you can ever imagine and will be the hardest thing you ever do, but it is also the most rewarding thing you can ever do. And you are healthy enough to know and love your child well. I hope for the same. Please pray for me and my baby and I will pray for you and yours.
Dear Alisha and Pete,
I am due about the same time as you. This is an unplanned pregnancy for my husband and I. We had wanted more children(prior to my injury), but I have deteriorating health issues, from a car accident over 4 years ago. My shoulder and neck were traumatically injured in the accident. My shoulder damage is tightening and pulling on my neck. I can barely use my right arm without pain becoming severe into my neck. If the doctors involved would have surgically repaired my shoulder damage within a year of the accident my neck would not have deteriorated this much. I do not have full medical info, but know I have worsening kyphosis in my neck which can lead to partial, and complete paralysis, loss of bladder and bowel control, and even death in worst cases. It is also a very painful process as it worsens. I suspect it is ‘functional’ scoliosis, which is worsening because of severe damage left in my shoulder, worsening the kyphosis further, but I am not a doctor. When the doctors realized that leaving my shoulder the way they did, caused my severe neck issues it became about cover-up. No one would help us. We sold our house at a loss and took our children traveling to try to get me surgery. People seemed to smell the controversy, and we turned away again and again, even by christian clinics. It seems the same info I need for surgery would prove malpractice. My childhood records were changed to make it look like I had neck issues from before to cover for what was (and they likely knew was going to happen to me). I don’t know how fast I will deteriorate or if I will stabilize. So far I continue to worsen and the pain is so bad often. I was taking a limited amount of medicine to control the pain and keep the muscles more relaxed to slow the damage but have not taken them since learning I was pregnant. I am now too far along to sleep on my back, which is making my neck get worse faster, and I wake after 3 or 4 hours of sleep in such pain I cannot go back to sleep. We had given up on finding medical help before I got pregnant - we did not want to use up the little money we had left, but wanted to leave enough to get into a small house in a remote area, so my husband could afford to financially look after our family, while I continue to get worse, and if I lose more function, so he would not be under so much strain. We must think of our children’s future and decided not to pursue medical help anymore unless God showed us where to go, so that we did not waste the little money we had left. I have been so sick with severe morning sickness as well, and lost almost 10 lbs. I have not yet passed my pre-pregnancy weight. Between the sickness and constant pain it has sometimes felt like torture. My circulation is poor as well (finger and toe nails often blue) and I worry about my baby getting adequate blood and nutrition. Will my baby be damaged? I am scared what will happen with my spine as I grow larger. I am scared of the strain of giving birth. I would be lying to you if I said abortion had not crossed my mind. And yet, I know my older children. Abortion is murder, and how could I have aborted one of my precious 3 older children who I know and love so well? How could I have taken one of their lives? This one I know will be just as precious and unique and is already, a life that God has planned somehow against incredible odds, in the midst of my poor health. My husband and older children have already felt this little one kick against their hands. My baby always has a long wake period between 9 & 11 pm. I tell my husband and children (before they go to bed), when I feel our little one stirring, that ‘baby is awake now’ and my husband and children are excited to hear it. They pray everyday(as before I got pregnant) for God to heal me and in the meantime for God to ease my pain each day, and now they pray for my little baby to grow safely too. Even though I grow worse, their prayers encourage me so much and I have let go of my
As someone who recently lost a child, I don't think your idea of going about this is right. You have been Blessed with the opportunity that some of us don't have. If I am ever able to carry a baby, I will need constant doctor appointments and bed rest the entire 9 months. I'm not here to judge you as only God should do that. But for the sake of your soul, if you don't think you will make a good mother, put the baby up for adoption so that the people in the world who can't conceive can have a chance to be parents. I think it is totally ignorant that you are relying on people whom you don't know to help with your decision. Please allow this child to live and give it up for adoption.
Agreed Rata Sunshine, i think this site is defo fake - apart from my personal opinion that nobody could actually be so retarded, ESPECIALLY after having miscarriages - there is no way a personal website could sustain a 4chan attack, they have made WALMARTS site crash before, so the server that this bad boy is on has serious abilities... i.e. monies. Definitely seems like a stunt to me. But still - these two are complete fucking idiots
I am pro-choice, have had an abortion, will always be pro-choice and will always support womens rights...
However, this is just ridiculous.
Give birth to this kid and then give the child up for adoption to non-crazy people.
If do decide to keep this child and raise this child, please do not ever ever tell this kid about your dumb ass experiment.
You're going to abort the thing anyway, might as well do it now and have it done. Lulzy blog, by the way.
I think that if you are honestly asking the public what they should do, for attention or publicity, then you don't deserve to be parents. This is heartless and tactless to hang the life of your child in the balance of public opinion. It's also irresponsible. That baby is living and breathing and growing inside of you and because you LOST the previous three, your willing to KILL this one, to give yourself more time to heal emotionally? If you've been pregnant 3 times previously, isn't a baby what you WANT??
I don't get it. I think this child doesn't deserve you as parents, as didn't the previous three, obviously. She/He might be better off, having never been born.
I'd vote "life" but for some reason, I don't think you guys are serious (parents couldn't be this heartless), and I believe this to be a tasteless hoax.
I'm not sure if this is some sort of ploy to create controversy or if you are serious. Why are you wanting other people, who don't know you, to make this decision for you? I would encourage you to go through with this pregnancy and if you don't want the child after you give birth, or simply can't afford a baby at this time, that you put him/her up for adoption. There are plenty of women who are unable to have children who would love to adopt from you, me included in this. I encourage you to give birth to this baby. Please give him/her a chance.
This comment section is terrible because it gets ride space between paragraphs leading to HUGE WALLS OF TEXT that nobody wants to read. Anyway, I'll just post the most important link from my last post. COPY AND PASTE THIS: http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2010/11/19/abortionvote-website-antichoice-trolling-fail
Ok, antimac (by the way, i'm flattered - thanks =]) are you possibly maybe a little bit drunk? Who's your money on for being the trolls to create a bigger ban hammer than the US? I'm thinking Iran, i'd LOVE to see that due in charge man - he'd defo put a jihad on these dickheads!
The game is up guys: http://jezebel.com/5693386/internet-abortion-vote-looking-like-an-anti+choice-prank
Also, your husband is clearly Pro-life: http://www.dkosopedia.com/w/index.php?title=Pro-choice&oldid=69009
Also, you created this site in May: http://www.whois.net/whois/birthornot.com
Fail.
My question to you is this; "If Christ would ask you the same question about life,that pretains to Your own life or your spouse, what would your vote be?" May God give you wisdom and understanding. Know that all of us are but one precious breath away from death. You could be next. Think and Pray is my advice.
I just would like to understand why you are doing this. Do you think as people see the baby growing, they will change their minds about abortion or something? I just can't think of any other reason.
I hope you don't really mean this.
God bless you.
Something of a furore has blown up over the big pond over a website – www.birthornot.com – which purports to running an online vote which will decide whether a married couple will have their unborn child aborted.
The smart money suggests that the site is fake and, most likely, an anti-abortion stunt following checks on the site’s domain registration information which show that the domain name was registered several weeks before the couple claim to have conceived.
The Ministry of Truth [Me] has now found evidence linking this site to a climate change denier site ‘The Church of Global Warming‘.
Although both sites have been registered anonymously, examination of each site’s source code shows that both sites have their web traffic monitored from the same Google Analytics account – UA-7524334.This clearly suggests that boths sites are being operated by the same – as yet unidentified – individual(s) and, given the content and tone of the ‘Church of Global Warming’ site, that the abortion vote site is a right-wing conservative hoax.
UPDATE
5 Eyewitness news have a report on this story which identifies the site owners as Pete and Alisha Arnold of Apple Valley, Minnesota.
The key info here is a claim that the unborn foetus will be 17 weeks old on Friday (19th Nov), which puts the date of conception at around the end of July/beginning of August.
The Whois records for the site – as the Slate article correctly notes – give a registration date for the domain name of 17th May, a minimum of 9-10 weeks before conception.
UPDATE
Jeff Fecke at Blog of the Moderate Left seems to have nailed down the lid on this hoax…
Ah, but it gets better. You see, Pierre “Pete” Arnold III also used to be a “researcher, contributor, and part time producer for the Race to the Right radio show in St Cloud.” He blogged at Always Right, Usually Correct, which had a hard anti-choice bent. He used the aliases “The Pete” and “Zeeboid” — indeed, the latter is both a domain he owns and the userid for his gmail account — but it’s not that hard to track down. He operates (or used to operate) a site called “The Church of Global Warming.”
Yes, you say, but it’s still possible that the Arnolds are that rarest of creatures, the radical conservative pro-choicer.2
To which I say…remember that I told you Pete likes the name “Zeeboid?” And that he uses it as his gmail handle? Well, what do we have here — it’s an edit in the dKosopedia for “Pro-choice.” An edit on July 16, 2006, by user “Zeeboid.” Behold, Pete Arnold’s early days of trolling
The term “pro-choice” is used by men and women who support a woman’s right to kill an unborn child.
The term means that a woman has the right to determine whether or not she will be pregnant by killing a baby that has already been conceived.
Also Refered to as Pro Abortion
And…we’re done here. Pete Arnold is an anti-choice troll.
So many people are shocked by this. How could they leave whether their unborn baby is aborted up to the whims of a popular vote? That's exactly the point I think they are trying to make. If it shocks us that an individual couple would do this, they might argue that it is even more shocking that we (as a society) do this on a larger scale, by whom we vote into office. That's what I think they're up to. Don't fall for it. I don't for a minute believe they are considering aborting this baby. As time goes on, they will draw even more outrage as those especially concerned about late term abortions weigh in. Again, this is their whole intent. To create outrage and then say, "If it's not o.k. for us to decide whether to keep or abort our baby based on the votes of the American public, then it's not o.k. for our country to do the same."
Not we're not retarded, we just know that there aint shit anybody can do it. If the wordl were the internet, America would be /b/. Just a bunch of trolls really Someone one will invent a bigger ban hammer(aka bomb) than ours someday then THEY can be the trolls and the world can hate THEM.
As a pro-choicer, I voted for BOTH, because "pro-choice" means it's YOUR choice, not anyone else's, as YOU are the ones who will bear the consequences of either choice.
having a child is one of the most profound decisions anyone can make. If you have to have a poll to make the decision you are not ready to be a parent. This is the most personal of decisions and should not be decided by a vote nor should the government control or influence the decision. Good Luck, you'll need it
Are you guys retarded or what?
should think 1 can you afford to give the baby a good life or a good home for adoption if not i dont see a reason why you should not make an abortion but its your own doing and own responcibility to do what ever is going to be done not a freaking web poll
seriously this kinda things happen when wrong people get doing some sideways mambo thinking nothing will happen and when some people actually struggle to get kids.
oh no wait, sorry - i thought we were talking about Swedish girls for a second there. Na, everyone else in the world is fed-the-fuck-up of you to be honest
http://www.in.com/videos/watchvideo-live-abortion-7889415.html
Well actually... yeah, pretty much
@Mac: Dosent everybody?
Que tristeza que no tengan la capacidad mental para tomar una desición tan importante. Es que es una parte de ustedes. Piensen si sus madres hubiesen tenido en tan poca estima sus vidas. donde estarían ahora?
Please carry the baby to birth. It is not your baby. The baby is his/her own person, a gift from God. If you choose to parent the baby then you will be parents, and hopefully grow in wisdom. If you choose to let your baby be adopted by a couple who are longing to be parents, but are unable to, you are allowing this precious gift to fulfill a family. There are pregnancy centers in your area that can help you, there are churches that can help you.
LOL, i love americans...
Lord God, I thank you today for the gift of my life,
And for the lives of all my brothers and sisters.
I know there is nothing that destroys more life than abortion,
Yet I rejoice that you have conquered death
by the Resurrection of Your Son.
I am ready to do my part in ending abortion.
Today I commit myself
Never to be silent,
Never to be passive,
Never to be forgetful of the unborn.
I commit myself to be active in the pro-life movement,
And never to stop defending life
Until all my brothers and sisters are protected,
And our nation once again becomes
A nation with liberty and justice
Not just for some, but for all.
Through Christ our Lord. Amen!
Hey, "Lenny" The moment your opened your mouth and spouted religious dogma, your opinion became invalid. If you want to feel high and mighty because you think you have some invisible zombiefied jew on your side, then you go right ahead mister. And as for you teaching me ANYTHING, you aint even one-tenth the man you'd need to be for that bucko. You can shove your natural law and morality right up your ass till you taste it. Or get your closet boyfriend to do it for you.
Of course you should abort - anybody who's willing to do a stunt like this to try to spread their fundie belief system will just end up raising a future suicide bomber anyways. Or were you planning on having the little "angel" help start the race war via a different method?
Put it up for adoptions. you're clearly not fit to be parents
Hey, "none of your GD business". YOU ARE THE MORON PLAIN AND SIMPLE! God creates life, therefore he can take it away. Only God can decide, not you, me or these confused parents. The rest of your rant is complete ignorance and I don't have time to teach you natural law and morality. Maybe start by reading a good book, assuming you know how to read.
The Lord bless you and keep you. The Lord make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you. The Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.
And to little miss Cathy up there who says that no one who calls the fetus a 'baby' will abort. YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT. That is the most unsound logic I have ever heard in my entire life. People kill 'baby' every fucking day, you dumb cunt. That shit was so stupid I hid under my chair for fear that the vacuum inside your head where your brain should be would pull down the moon at any moment.
TROLOLOLOLOLOL ^^^^
I think you should have the baby but then put it up for adoption since you're obviously unfit parents. If you weren't sure if you wanted a baby or not you should have put on a condom you bloody morons. I feel sorry for that baby if you keep it.
Oh wow, I have never in my life seen such a collection of incredible idiots and hypocrites as there are on this page. Nothing brings out the bible thumpers like an abortion debate eh? I guess they're all forgetting the God himself killed babies, innocent ones too, or have we forgotten the lesson taught to the pharaoh? All those first borns didnt do shit, they had no choice and no voice, but they were killed just to teach some prick a lesson! Merciful God huh. Not all fluffy clouds and rainbows anymore is it? And you pro-choice idots. Your not getting out of this either. Every time one of you opens your fucking trap, all you hear is 'it's HER choice, it's HER body, it's HER right!' well guess what NO THE FUCK IT AINT. She sure as hell didnt make that baby by herself did she? She didnt wake up that morning and take some magical pregnancy pill did she? NO a MAN helped her make that baby, and that baby is every bit as much his as hers. I dont give a good flying fuck if it's living in your body or not, it's not wholly yours. in my PERSONAL opinion, abortion should require the consent of BOTH parents provided they are present, and if the consent is denied by EITHER that woman should be FORCED to carry that baby to term, even if you have to chain her to a fucking bed and spoon feed her apple sauce every day. And you lost all right to bitch about it when YOU hit your back and threw your heels in the fucking air without taking any precautions. Either spit out the dick or spit out the kid, period. The ONLY people on here that have ANY right to say ANYTHING are the people who are saying 'I am not voting on this.' They are the only people on here with any semblance of intelligence at all. If you voted in this stupid, STUPID poll, whether birth OR abortion, then you became just as bad as the people who posted it the second you clicked 'vote'. And the reason is because YOU are enabling them! You are giving these fucking schmucks exactly what they want, ATTENTION! None of you have any right what-so-fucking-ever to try and tell anybody what they should do. Half of you fuckers screaming you want to adopt it already got so many ankle biters in your house you cant spit without hitting one, or you've never had a child and have no clue how much work goes into raising one! And half of you morons screaming for abortion probably wouldn't be here if your fucking mothers could have afforded an abortion themselves. ALL OF YOU NEED TO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. And as for you two who started all this, oh yes, I didnt forget you, WHAT in the bleeding, blistered bowls of hell do you think you are DOING?!? Do you honestly expect for one sodomizing second that I believe this poll is going to have any bearing what so ever on your decision? You two are nothing more than low life, petty, fucked up attention whores. Except for the female, SHE is an attention whore, and just a regular ole' whore-whore to boot. If you wanted the baby, GREAT, pop out the little shit factory and Shut the hell up about it. If you DIDNT want it, well then keep your fucking knees together you dumb bitch! OR the guy, that malignant stain on the underwear of society, could have used this great new invention called a condom. HOLY SHIT, YOU MEAN I CAN HAVE SEX WITHOUT MAKING BABIES OR PULLING OUT!?!? Well yes indeedy you can, it's fucking magical, or magical fucking, which ever you prefer. You two have already made your choice, and most of the world knows it. The ONLY thing I will ask, nay, BEG of you, is this: If you have decided to have an abortion, dont go to the doctor. Do myself and the rest of the world a favor and step in from of a speeding bus. Be sure to drag that retarded man-child who dosent seem to know how babies are made along with you. Because if I know anything, it's that I dont need you, or anyone LIKE you on my fucking world, polluting up all of my fucking air, with your incessant fucking clamoring for the over rated spotlight.
TL;DR-->Fuck this nonsense.
I'd like to expand on a point made by Maggie: You are putting your babies life to vote. So, after this poll has been finished, can we expect a similar vote on your lives? "Should we kill ourselves for being so fucking stupid, ignorant, and ungrateful for the gift of life?". Pretty sure the outcome would be a resounding "yes please, you fucking idiots"
I think this is one giant hoax. I guess it proves one thing however, America is MUCH more prolife than the media wants us to believe.
You will not abort regardless the vote. Proof: You're calling your child a "baby". One does not kill a baby. All proponents of abortion will only *ever* refer to an unborn baby as a foetus!
Shame on you... poor child!!
How could you not have the natural feelings of love and protection for your own child. How could you kill your OWN CHILD????
Part of me has to believe that this is all a stunt for some kind of research project or whatever. All I can say is that if this is for real, one day you both will meet your maker and have to face judgement for your actions. Karma is a bitch.
I do not understand. You talk of 2 planned pregnancies that sadly ended in miscarriage. Why now then are you considering abortion? You are getting prenatal care and following the doctors orders, why if you are considering killing your baby? It makes no sense.
I am sicked at the thought that you are still even contemplating it when you can feel your baby move inside you. I used to be pro choice but as I have gotten older, I have gotten wiser and realize that Pro Life is the only way to go. (with only extreme exceptions for rape, incest victims, or if mothers life is in jeopardy)
I have tried for 6 years to have a baby and have succeeded in becoming pregnant only once in that time. Sadly it ended in miscarriage for me. With my own fertiliity issues it makes it so hard to even think about what you may do to that life inside of you.
The guilt and shame one feels from having an abortion will haunt you forever. I know, I had one when I was 20 and afraid. It was the absolute biggest mistake in my life! I will always feel that I am being punished for that which is why I am not able to conceive now.
I also must say that if you do choose to have this baby, I seriously hope that you are investigated by child protetcive services and that the baby is taken care of and loved. I do not see how anyone in tehir right mind could create asite like this and use an innocent life to make money, attact attention or whatever your twisted motivations are.
Have the baby and give it the life it deserves... give it up for adoption to better parents. and seriously... 3 miscarriages and no birthcontrol at 17.. wtf???? you are morons
I cannot believe you would put your baby's life to a vote. Will you put your own life to a vote next?
I agree sith sparky and john. give him up for adoption and repent. Don't let this poor child ever discover what you are doing.
As sad as this appears to be, perhaps a good outcome could result out of this, hopefully. I do believe the baby has a right to life. I've seen videos of abortions and what they do, and what the baby goes through before it finally dies, is horrific! The baby, even a young fetus, shows signs of fear and pain, and if women considering abortion saw what happens, it would deterr most, I,m sure! I think the responsible thing to do is let the baby come to term and give it up for adoption so it can go into a loving home.
please abort this baby i am hungry for fetus pizza
@ michaeltc
"Please excuse the morons and idiots for attacking you."
YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT
and you certainly don't speak for me - these people shouldn't be allowed to breed
Give birth and then think seriously of adoption and repentance for this evil and disgusting website. Imagine how your child will feel when he discovers that his parents failed to love and chose to place his life up for a vote. It would be better that your child be placed in a loving home and never discovers who you are.
I am a pro-choice female who had an abortion, but I am overwhelmed and disgusted by what you're doing. The decision I made was a difficult one, something I weighed heavily and in the end, believe was the right choice for me.
Your cavalier actions, your pointless stunt, they make a mockery of couples who find themselves in a similar position.
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WOW!!! so sick, so wrong. Woman's personal choice is not circus game show choice...Please stop this.
I think you should give birth, and then give the baby up for adoption.
I don't think that you will be able to forgive yourself if you kill the baby, just look at the pictures of your echo!
Hope you choose to have the baby, even if you give it up for adoption. Please excuse the morons and idiots for attacking you.
Why not have the baby and give it to some loving family that can't have children. its not rubbishe that you can put in the bin. i have been married for 16 and dont have the choice you have as i cant have children your crushing my heart
You people are sick .. you don't deserve this God's Gift.. feel sorry for the unborn baby (either ways) to have such biological parents.
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I am not here to jjudge, this is still your decision. I am 100% pro-choice. But I am not really sure I agree in late term abortion. You have seen this ( in your words ) your baby how could your do this at this late stage. I have had an abortion but never past seven weeks I never felt a heartbeat or movement dont abort what could be your only chance to be come a mom>>>>>> Good Luck to all three of you guys
To abort or not to abort? Don't abort. Please. Don't even consider it further. My name is Joy as you can obviously see. I'd prefer not to give out my full name. I am 14 years old. While I was still in my mother's womb, the doctor informd my parents that at the rate I was growing, I was to be born retarded and deformed. My parents considered aborting me. The fact that they even CONSIDERED it still TORMENTS me every day. The fact that for a second there, perhaps a very long second that streched into a couple weeks - they seriously considered not giving me a chance to grow up. I just can't grasp why anyone who could have a child would give that the child up. I mean sure I can see all the factors that lead to such a decision, and I'm truly sorry that your past pregnancies have failed thus far. Yet, right now, this child in the mother's womb looks to be growing up perfectly healthy. I'm so sorry that you're even debating his/her life. You have to trust that this child will be born safely. You can't immediately doubt the child's safety based on previous experiences; you have to give this child the opportunity to prove itself. You have to put all your faith into this because if you don't then this is going to continue to torment you, and it may torment the child in the future. A lot of people in my family sided with my parent's decision to abort me, yet in the end, my grandmother, the one person against such a horrendous idea, overruled them all - luckily. When I was finally born, I proved the doctor wrong: I am not reatarded and I am not deformed. Today, I am still proving the doctor wrong, and I'm only doing this because I was actually given the CHANCE to.
Please please please please abort your American brat in the making (literally) - we'll have one less greedy fuck on this planet to contend with). If you won't do it for me, do it for the environment or Canada
all i can say is ATTENTION WHORES! i hope you enjoy your 15 minutes and your burn in hell one you kill your baby
Yes, every woman should be free to decide whether to give birth or not. Yes, unwanted pregnancies do occur, even nowadays. BUT: I think you are too advancced in your pregnancy. During the first few weeks the baby is just a lump of cells, multiplying and multiplying. But by now, it has arms and legs, it moves, it turns away if it feels pain etc. I am not against abortion in general. But I am against late abortion and I am against abortion for the worng reasons. And abortion because of a majority of people unknown to you and not knowing you and not knowing your circumstances is surely among 'wrong reasons'. Keep this child, and give him/her a home. Period. And if you find it in your heart be happy about being able to conceive and carry to term, if it comes to that. Not every couple is so blessed.
YOU guys are so damn crazy... you really think your baby will love you when he/she grows up and find out his life was given to teh internetz? Please DONT HAVE THE BABY, otherwise you are going to make 90 years of suffering for one little person. OR have the baby and give it to some SANE people. ALSO DONT EVER HAVE A FUCKIN BABY, you are not mentally ready for this and you will never be.
if you were not ready for parenthood, then you should have used birth control instead of killing off a perfectly healthy fetus that was conceived in an act of love between a man and woman
I have NO idea how you can see that ultra-sound and hear that babies heart beat and still even CONSIDER an abortion! You are a cold hearted bitch who is commiting murder. I hope you burn in hell
Kill yourself too.
Boy, I've been reading some of the comments. And the one that said she was "educated" and encouraged you to have an abortion made me come back to respond.
I voted for LIFE. "Death and life" are in the power of the tongue. God even told His people, "Choose life."
Back the "educated" woman. She encouraged you to have an abortion, and that she didn't have a regret. She said to consider how the baby would feel when it grows up and had to deal with knowing its parents didn't want her / him. I would ask ... what about the baby that was aborted, once back in heaven, realizes her / his mother KILLED it? Is it easier to deal with the fact a parent "can't" take care of it, or the fact a parent "won't" deal with it? I would say it would be much easier for me to know my parents couldn't take care of me instead of killing me.
The "educated" woman is ignorant. Killing or adopting. Murderers or parents who adopt?
Either way, whether you are going to adopt or abort, you are parents. That baby is alive at this point. Let it live, and let him . her become all God wants it to be. That baby has a heartbeat. A heart beat means it's living. Please don't make the baby's heart stop.
I am ashamed to know that you are from Minnesota. How can you let some stupid internet poll decide the fate of you baby? What if you have the baby and he/she grows up and finds out about this. I bet that would hurt them very much. DO you even realize what you are doing? I understand that people want attention but I didn’t know that they would go to this extreme to get it. You know what bothers me the most? You get the choice to kill your baby but if someone caused you great bodily harm while you were pregnant and it killed the baby, they would be charged with murder. I think that you are obviously immature and unfit parents. I hope that you give the baby up for adoption. One day you will have to answer to Christ for doing this, and if you kill your baby, I hope that God punishes you. I have 2 children and abortion never crossed my mind. Are you really that selfish? You had the fun of making the child, now take care of it or let someone else who can’t have children take care of the baby. I feel so sorry for your child for having a poor excuse for parents like you. Whether you like to admit it or not you already are parents since a living human being dwells within you. Have you watched abortion procedures? Babies try to move away from the stuff that kills them, you can see it on an ultrasound screen. Some doctors rip them limb from limb. That makes me sick! To me it makes no difference if you kill it in the womb or you’re the crazy lady down the street that drowned her baby.
This is obviously fake and done by pro life campaigners as anyone in their right mind who would was considering an abortion would not write such a description of the fetus like that and put up the scans. I voted abort, as I believe that if you are not ready for a family emotionally and financially then the baby is better off not being brought into this world. As for all those who say give it up for adoption, I'm sure being bounced around foster families is a bundle of laughs for a child there are not enough families who want children already to take in all the abandoned children in the world.
To all those who say they would adopt, how about adopting a unwanted child, a sick child, an older child, a black child, a hispanic child, a mentally ill child, stop being so selfish with what you want and give an unwanted child a home.
If there was one thing you guys can do that will impact and make a difference in a other person life, it will be your own child, give your child the gift of life and if your don't want your child, and you are crazy for not wanting your child, you can give your child another gift and that is a home, adoption, to a family who will love your child and take of your child because your are to selfish to take care, and to love your own baby/ your own child. Our Lord in haven love you both so very much more then you well ever know and your child that he as blessed you with. if you are scared about being parents Trust in the Lord and do not listen to other people. God will direct you and give you wisdom in the right direction. This is your decision no one else can make this chose for you, and I can't believe that you have this poll. PLEASE, PLEASE don't kill your own child PLEASE! It breaks my heart to hear that you are thinking about it, being a mom, a dad is the best thing ever.
Only in America could assholes turn something like this into some sort of pathetic reality event to get their 2 minutes of 'fame' - no wonder the whole world thinks you are all a bunch of total dickheads!
If you aren't sure if you should have a baby - DON'T FUCKING HAVE A BABY
What next. I am very pro-choice. But this is not pro-choice. This is playing games. I feel sorry for this child. So my question what next? Maybe you will poll whether you should smack or not smack. Give medication to your sick child or not? This child will have a pile of evidence to support a lawsuit against his own parents... if he has the chance to live. Now that is mind boggling isn't it.
I want to know why your even asking this question. Why wold anyone have an abortion? That would make you a murder, to kill an innocent, breathing baby who just wants to live. Your baby that's breathing in your stomach, can feel, hear, and smell. Your baby is alive, and your deciding whether or not to kill it? Shame.
And this is coming from a thirteen year old who knows that life is important. And why kill this baby? There are people out there who would sell their own teeth for a child of their own, and again, you consider to kill it or not?!
although i've chosen give birth, i'm questioning whether it would be right for you to even be parents. putting a poll online which allows complete strangers to decide the fate of your unborn child, your own flesh and blood, is just fucking wrong.
i'm so sick of 'saving the innocent life of a child' bullshit.
Have the baby. Take the best care of yourself as possible during your pregnancy. The body in question is not yours, Alisha. It is your child's. You are briefly incubating your child's body, but that is all. You do not have the right to dictate to your child what to do with his/her body. Your right to choose ended when you chose to have unprotected sex.
Like many others, I echo the sentiment that adoption is the best alternative for an unplanned pregnancy. Thousands of couples desperately want children but cannot conceive for one reason or another.
Should you choose an abortion, you and Pete will be held accountable for it. The Family: A Proclamation to the World tells us, "We affirm the sanctity of life and of its importance in God's eternal plan.
"Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. 'Children are an heritage of the Lord' (Psalms 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, to teach them to love and serve one another, to observe the commandments of God and to be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives—mothers and fathers—will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations...
"We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets."
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HOAX!!! See MN Citypags story with pics and video:
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2010/11/zeeboid_license.php
NICE INVESTIGATING!!!
I watched ALLLL of their YOUTUBE videos before they made them private and the channel private, so the next time I'm back in MN I can recognize them, their friends and family. Screenshots...
Oh- and for those of you who missed the videos you didn't miss much, a trip to DC on freedom trail, looking at plymoth rock, thanksgiving, lots of "rawk"ing out in their living room with friends with guitar hero stuff, his obsession w/his car, running all of their vehicles at the same time on earth day (oh and we have a screen shot of another license plate to track)
They do not intend to kill their baby. They want 10 seconds of fame- congrats you got it...but I guarantee prolife OR prochoice people hate your GUTS either way for the stupid stunt.
I think they were trying to prove a point-that when we go to "normal" voting polls, we are ultimately doing the same voting that his happening on their sorry web page=except we have faces and ultrasounds to go with it. (I would have thought computer people could've done a nicer job - although his editing on a video of Anna making a King cake was alright) I would have also thought they would've used different usernames OTHER than their license plate. That's just plain dumb and left a "right-winged" trail, and made it OBVIOUS these daft people are looking for their 10 seconds.
I HOPE that EVERY TIME these two buffoons go out in public, people let them know how absolutely stupid they are for the rest of their lives...I know I would...and I've called on my Minneapolis friends to seek them out...
What's sad is that their poor kid-Wiggles-is going to grow up w/them, hear about it at school, and likely be relentlessly teased about it...just like his parents.
OH. And I AM prolife, and I understand that there are A LOT of prochoice people that aren't pro-abortion...I get that...but I'm one of those people that believe life begins at conception, and that's when the soul is created...
How can you face murder so flippantly?
PUBLICITY STUNT AND HOAX DOMAIN WAS REGISTERED BEFORE CHILD WAS SUPPOSEDLY CONCEIVED
COUPLE ARE RIGHT-WING BLOGGER AND FACEBOOK FANS OF GLEN BECK
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS PUBLICITY STUNT THE SITE IS BULLSH*T
I believe you guys will do the right thing for you. If you are ready to have a child, you will. If you aren't, you have to do what you have to. I got pregnant when I was 17. I had a great job, a lot of my own stuff and I wasn't ready for the responsibilities and what I would have had to sacrifice to have a kid. It was my responsibility, because I did the deed. But people have to make their own decisions. I understand why you ask for votes from strangers. It does help in the decision. It really is up to you to have the baby, abort or opt out for adoption. I know I wouldn't have been able to hand my baby over to some stranger whether I wanted it to begin with or not, but that is just me. You seem like strong people, to be handling the things people say to you about your choice. Isn't that why we live in America? For the freedom to make our own choices? Whether they be a situation like this or what college to go to. We all have our own choices to make, and sometimes we don't always make the right ones, but we make up for it somehow. Good luck in your decision. :) {BTW: I didn't vote.}
Sorry, once you take a picture, you can't have an abortion. Just like once you name a calf you can't butcher it. It's just the law of the land.
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So what happens if you don't have an abortion and the child finds this website or mention of it in the news in a few years?
Yea that's gonna be awkward... I'm sure this child will grow up in a very healthy environment.
i voted for you to give birth. I am very much aligned with the pro-choice camp, but I feel that abortion should only be used in extreme circumstances. It is a human being, and you are ending a life. Uncertainty is not enough of a reason to choose abortion. If you are uncertain whether you want a child or not, the proper precautions can and should be made before a pregnancy could occur.
wow what a bunch of sick F's you are. Your asking complete strangers if YOU should have an abortion and putting fucking votes on A BABIES LIFE?!?! wtf is wrong with you? Don't ask other people to play God for you, grown some balls AND MAKE THE DECISION YOURSELF. Its YOUR fault your pregnant, so DEAL WITH IT. You have an abortion, that is murder....the HEART IS BEATING in that child! Fake or not you are cold hearted, cruel, ignorant bastards. Kill yourselves and save the kid. You should be grateful that your even pregnant at all considering you don't deserve it, or anything for that matter. Either have the baby and have it hate you for the rest of its life when it finds out how little their parents wanted it or die during childbirth cause you deserve it.
you guys are so stupid you shouldn't be alound to procreate ,, think about it you are asking a bunch of strangers to help you decide if you wanna be parents when the obvious answer is ..IF YOU HAVE TO ASK ITS FUCKING NO FUCKWITS ...
and if you have him now imagine how he will feel if he ever finds out when hes older .. wow my parents didnt know if they wanted me or not so they put it to a vote around the world.
All i can say is as a parent of three you two do not deserve the privalige of being a parent to a loving child.
ps get your tubes tied BOTH OF YOU SAVE THE WORLD FROM THIS AGAIN.