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Should We Give Birth or Have an Abortion? (Poll Closed)

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4,416 Comments

  • Johnie - 14 years ago

    i say u should have the baby, then kill urselves since ur the ones who should be aborted. abort the baby if u want but for making this website and looking out for attention this way is sick. u should be aborted. or maybe u should have the abortion because even if u have the baby and give it up for adoption then one day it will still find out and will be ashamed. ever heard of teen suicide? kid will wind up killing itself anyway because of your perverted sense of humour. sick twisted people u are.

  • Keshia - 14 years ago

    Alisha and Pete,

    First off, know that I'm praying for you. I have had one miscarriage and one successful pregnancy. I'm currently pregnant and have experienced bleeding and a lot of cramping. Although I haven't experienced stress to the level you have dealing with pregnancy, let me say, I empathize very much. I can't imagine the heartache you've gone through. I've had conversations with my husband about what we would do if I had lost this baby, like I thought I was when I first started experiencing bleeding. I can't imagine going through another pregnancy after losing TWO children. How do people come back from the pain they experience when losing children? Let me just say, this child may be your chance. This child may be the one to break that cycle of heartache. I can't imagine my life without my son. He means more to me than I ever could've imagined. You've come this far, don't end your child's life to avoid pain. You'll experience a different type of pain. What if you hadn't aborted? That will hang in the back of your mind forever. Choose that child's life! And raise that sweet baby as long as the good Lord allows. God bless your pregnancy, what a testament to His provision! I'm praying for you. Feel free to contact me, I'd love to encourage you in any way that I can. Blessings

  • Beth - 14 years ago

    Every child is a gift from God. Having a child is the greatest thing that ever happened to me. Parenthood is a great adventure and you'll find once that baby gets here, you'll be ready.

  • Brian - 14 years ago

    Abort the fetus and enjoy your life.

  • Joyce - 14 years ago

    this is shockingly, morbidly, mind-numbingly dumb. if you are trying to make a political point it is totally lost on the informed voting population. the debate over abortion is about someone's personal choice, not about legislating whether anyone should or shouldn't have an abortion. this stunt misses that point completely.

  • Kasey - 14 years ago

    I'm pro-choice, so I say the decision is yours, but I'd urge you to consider adoption. There are many women in the world that can't have children of their own that would be more than happy to adopt. And there are so many options now. I myself gave one of my children up for adoption 6 years ago and it was the best thing I could've done for everyone involved. I don't love him any less than my other children, it was just a quality of life issue at the time he was born.
    This being said I have another concern. Now that you've posted this poll, and gotten the media involved, if you do give birth and decide to raise the child yourself, how will you explain it to the child? In this day and age, with nothing to be said of what the future holds, you've got to be aware that the media will follow up and it will be in the paper, which means it's a part of history. At some point in time the child will discover the poll and then what will you do? Could you forgive a parent for leaving the decision of whether or not to give you life in the hands of complete strangers? Like a decision on what to have for dinner? I cannot imagine what would possess you to do something like this with such little consideration for the person the fetus will become. I have to say that it shows a distinct lack of the maturity, sense, and love that it would require to be a parent. Good luck in your decision. I wish the child a little more love and happiness in the world having to bear this later in life.

  • Sarah - 14 years ago

    In my opinion you should not even have the chance of becoming a parent! This child deserves better! An animal mother would do a better job!I have a 4 month old son, and I could not imagine ever wanting to take his life. I would kill for him...born or unborn! You sound like a stupid human being who needs to get fixed!

  • Terry - 14 years ago

    You don't know what that child might accomplish, best to try it and find out!

  • Cathy - 14 years ago

    It looks like your baby is going to win. So far the results favor your little unborn baby not being put to death. So, how will you explain this game you played with his or her life when he or she inevitably finds out about this stunt you pulled?

  • expectant mother - 14 years ago

    as a woman that miscarried 3 times and is currently 11 weeks pregnant, i find it sad that you would rely on the general public's opinion for such an important life changing decision. if you didn't want a child, you should have taken better precautions not to get pregnant. i know that sometimes, even with precautions, you can conceive. but if that was the case and you really didn't want a baby, why did you wait until now to do something about it? i am against abortion, but i can not tell you how to live your life. for we all need to make our own decisions. but it amazes me that you would go half way through your pregnancy and then be willing to discard your baby. i know the changes your body and mind goes through. how does that not effect you emotionally? have you not bonded with your baby? at this point not only is your baby's heart beating, but it's sucking it's thumbs and growing rapidly. it looks like a little human. you do realize that if you decide to abort this child, you will go through labor pains, correct? and it will affect you emotionally and mentally for the rest of your life. i just hope that you come to a decision on your own.

  • desperate - 14 years ago

    I dont even know what to say!!!! why isnt adoption one of the choices?? is this your way to fame and fortune??? Next month you'll have a vote on whether to get prenant again?

  • guido - 14 years ago

    hey, just have the kid, he could be a very important person in the future, you could have fun with your kid.
    dont worry be happy

  • CaitlinS - 14 years ago

    Children change your life. You won't regret having the child!

  • james - 14 years ago

    LISTEN IM GETTING TIRED OF PEOPLE TALKING SHIT, LOOK JUST BECAUSE I REPOST PEOPLES COMMENT AND CHANGE THE WORDS AROUND DOESNT MEAN IM A BAD PERSON.
    I UNDERSTAND IT SUCKS WHEN PEOPLE MAKE FUN OF YOU, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I TO HAVE BEEN MADE FUN OF MY ENTIRE LIFE.
    IT ALL STARTED THE DAY I WAS BORN MY MOTHER HAD BEEN UP ALL NIGHT DRUNK SHE SLIP AND FELL ON A DIRTY CONDOM LEFT FROM SOME RANDOM DUDE WHO PAYED HER 20 BUCK FOR A QUICKY, WHEN SHE FELL HER METH PIPE FELL OUT OF HER POCKET AND SHATTERED SLICING HER ARMS RIGHT BESIDE A LONG SCAR THAT WAS LEFT THERE FROM AN ATTEMPTED SUICIDE WHEN SHE FOUND OUT SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH ME WHEN I WAS BORN
    THE DOCTOR TOLD MY MOTHER ''MA'AM PLEASE QUIT GRABBING ME THERE I SWEAR I DON'T CARRY CASH ON ME'' THIS UPSET MY MOTHER VERY MUCH.
    AT THE AGE OF 6 I REALIZED THAT I WASN'T LIKE OTHER BOYS WHEN THE TEACHER CAME INTO THE ROOM HE DROPPED HIS RULER WHEN HE BENT OVER IN FRONT OF ME ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT NEVER HAD BEFORE I STARTED GROWING IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN I WENT HOME AND TOLD MY MOTHER AND SHE GOT HER NEW BOYFRIEND TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF ME AGAIN.
    PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO MAKE FUN OF ME BECAUSE IVE NEVER BEEN WITH A WOMAN OR BECAUSE MY PENIS IS THE SIZE OF A COCKTAIL WIENER OR BECAUSE IM UGLIER THAN THE ELEPHANT MAN.
    THE ONLY REASON I HAVE BEEN REPOSTING YOUR COMMENTS AND CHANGING THEM AROUND TO BE VULGAR STUPID AND COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY COMMENTS IS BECAUSE IVE BEEN BEAT UP BY NERDS AND MADE FUN OF MY WHOLE LIFE AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN FEEL SOMEWHAT LIKE A MAN EVEN THOUGH I AM NOTHING CLOSE TO BEING A MAN IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD INSIDE AND PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS MADE FUN OF ME FOR LIKING MEN I CANT HELP IT I LOVE COCK IN MY THROAT WHAT CAN I SAY SO PLEASE IF I HAVE REPOSTED YOUR COMMENTS AND CHANGED THE WORDS TO MAKE YOU LOOK DUMB ITS BECAUSE IM THE ONE THAT HATES MYSELF I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT SUICIDE BUT IM REALLY NOT EVEN MAN ENOUGH TO DO THAT SO PLEASE DONT BE MAD I CANT HELP IT THAT IM A FAGGOT THANKYOU!!!!!

  • Nic - 14 years ago

    I truly believe in your hearts that you want this child; especially after having three prior miscarriages & now another pregnancy. Because I work for the government and am extremely sour at the corruption our leaders par take in- I believe the point of this website is to make people see how serious a vote is. And you two have made your point crystal clear by doing so. Look at the compassion people have when you’re talking about keeping your own child versus aborting it. Folks, believe it or not, when we vote for our Leaders, it is the same severity. Our County is in such rough shape from SELFISHNESS (what most people think of childless adults) that something must be done to stop it- or we and our children are going to have one hell of a future ahead of us. Please people, think of the underlying idea here: what your vote means to the future of this child; because when you vote for your Leaders- it’s your children’s future.

  • Grape Ape - 14 years ago

    Wow, I can hardly believe you would even consider aborting. This coming from someone who has had 2 abortions, one because I was young and the other because I didn't want to have a kid with someone who didn't want to have one with me after all. I have no regrets and fiercely support the right to choose. But it sounds like you both were trying to get pregnant, repeatedly. And now you are. With a healthy baby. So, What the F? If you choose not to give birth, you both should be neutered and spade. And if you do, give the baby up for adoption, how could you possibly live with yourselves? Either way, you should still both get fixed. You really don't deserve the right to procreate. And you must be really uncool people, if you think a 50 or 60 year old (which really isn't very old in the grand scheme of things) wouldn't have the same relationship with a child that is 30-35 years younger than them.

    p.s. Life never goes how you planned.

  • Rex Texard - 14 years ago

    Your website is a funny hoax, best troll ever!

    I especially love all the comments from people boohooing about not being able to have children of their own. Making a statement about not aborting and knowing at this very moment their are about 1/2 billion children running around on this planet with no parents. Not to mention the amount of children literally starving to death each second it takes to type out a word on the keyboard.

    It makes me almost ill just thinking about these people making comments here.

    I realize a majority of these parent-less children are non-white, it makes most of the comments here even more disturbing as they obviously don't care and don't practice what they preach concerning love and Jesus and all the other hypocrisy spewing forth from their keyboards.

    Nice job, keep it up, maybe some of the weirdo's posting here will take the time to read global statistics and understand how pathetic and self centered they really are.

  • C. Nelson - 14 years ago

    Be grateful it is YOUR CHOICE.

  • Julie - 14 years ago

    Please take this website down. This is a life, a baby, a HEARTbeating... making him or her alive. I can hardly post because of the sickness in my stomach. If you dont want to be inconvienced or worry about your ability to parent, give your baby the gift of a LIFE outside your womb. My nephew and his wife have been desperatly trying to have a baby to love, and cuddle, hold in their lives forever while so many mothers just throw theirs away. Devestating!

  • james - 14 years ago

    LISTEN IM GETTING TIRED OF PEOPLE TALKING SHIT, LOOK JUST BECAUSE I REPOST PEOPLES COMMENT AND CHANGE THE WORDS AROUND DOESNT MEAN IM A BAD PERSON.
    I UNDERSTAND IT SUCKS WHEN PEOPLE MAKE FUN OF YOU, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I TO HAVE BEEN MADE FUN OF MY ENTIRE LIFE.
    IT ALL STARTED THE DAY I WAS BORN MY MOTHER HAD BEEN UP ALL NIGHT DRUNK SHE SLIP AND FELL ON A DIRTY CONDOM LEFT FROM SOME RANDOM DUDE WHO PAYED HER 20 BUCK FOR A QUICKY, WHEN SHE FELL HER METH PIPE FELL OUT OF HER POCKET AND SHATTERED SLICING HER ARMS RIGHT BESIDE A LONG SCAR THAT WAS LEFT THERE FROM AN ATTEMPTED SUICIDE WHEN SHE FOUND OUT SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH ME WHEN I WAS BORN
    THE DOCTOR TOLD MY MOTHER ''MA'AM PLEASE QUIT GRABBING ME THERE I SWEAR I DON'T CARRY CASH ON ME'' THIS UPSET MY MOTHER VERY MUCH.
    AT THE AGE OF 6 I REALIZED THAT I WASN'T LIKE OTHER BOYS WHEN THE TEACHER CAME INTO THE ROOM HE DROPPED HIS RULER WHEN HE BENT OVER IN FRONT OF ME ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT NEVER HAD BEFORE I STARTED GROWING IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN I WENT HOME AND TOLD MY MOTHER AND SHE GOT HER NEW BOYFRIEND TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF ME AGAIN.
    PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO MAKE FUN OF ME BECAUSE IVE NEVER BEEN WITH A WOMAN OR BECAUSE MY PENIS IS THE SIZE OF A COCKTAIL WIENER OR BECAUSE IM UGLIER THAN THE ELEPHANT MAN.
    THE ONLY REASON I HAVE BEEN REPOSTING YOUR COMMENTS AND CHANGING THEM AROUND TO BE VULGAR STUPID AND COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY COMMENTS IS BECAUSE IVE BEEN BEAT UP BY NERDS AND MADE FUN OF MY WHOLE LIFE AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN FEEL SOMEWHAT LIKE A MAN EVEN THOUGH I AM NOTHING CLOSE TO BEING A MAN IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD INSIDE AND PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS MADE FUN OF ME FOR LIKING MEN I CANT HELP IT I LOVE COCK IN MY THROAT WHAT CAN I SAY SO PLEASE IF I HAVE REPOSTED YOUR COMMENTS AND CHANGED THE WORDS TO MAKE YOU LOOK DUMB ITS BECAUSE IM THE ONE THAT HATES MYSELF I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT SUICIDE BUT IM REALLY NOT EVEN MAN ENOUGH TO DO THAT SO PLEASE DONT BE MAD I CANT HELP IT THAT IM A FAGGOT THANKYOU!!!!!

  • Michelle Roeker - 14 years ago

    You probably won't see this comment because there are thousands already, but I wanted to encourage you that even if you're not ready for a baby, there's a woman out there who is and keeping the baby safe for her for 9 months is such a beautiful selfless thing to do.
    If you abort this baby, it will haunt you later; I know what I'm talking about from experience. Give your baby a chance, give her or him life.

  • dumbfuckers - 14 years ago

    I can't believe your stupidity. I know too many people that can't have they're own child and your willing to let people choose whether your child lives or dies. Are you that selfish? even after you had a couple mis-carriages? You should a poll up whether you get a chance to live or die...what would be the difference? You get to have a say and fight for YOUR life when your innocent child doesn't even get the choice? Shame on you for making this public to get your two minutes of fame.

  • KS - 14 years ago

    Abort the child. Thousands of children already in this world that are up for adoption that no one wants. More then likely if you give this child up for adoption they will be in and out of foster homes their whole life and end up dysfunctional anyways. If you do decide to have this child, keep it. Wish you all the best with your decision.

  • Catherine - 14 years ago

    Your baby feels your indecision........to love is the answer.

  • Catherine - 14 years ago

    Your baby feels your indecision........to love is the answer.

  • marie - 14 years ago

    Everyone take a deep breath- these people are not going to kill their baby, so just relax.

  • Steve From DC - 14 years ago

    We also had a prenatal issue with a child and they told us he would not live so why not abort. We knew to do that would give him no chance to live... and we decided to let him have the small chance to live by carrying to term. He did die... but we got to see him for two hours. He was a beautiful baby and we love him still. Where there is life there is hope: NEVER give up on hope.

  • Sonja - 14 years ago

    Don't you see that children are God's best gift?
    the fruit of the womb his generous legacy?
    Like a warrior's fistful of arrows
    are the children of a vigorous youth.
    Oh, how blessed are you parents,
    with your quivers full of children!
    Your enemies don't stand a chance against you;
    you'll sweep them right off your doorstep.

    (Psalm 127 A Pilgrim Song, of Solomon:verses 3-5.
    From The Message, a paraphrase of the Bible by Eugene Peterson)

    I so hope the amazing little person you are already parents to will not become a treasure thrown away.

  • yolanda - 14 years ago

    Your mother did not abort you because she loves you, why don't you share this to your baby

  • BaileyB - 14 years ago

    First of all- I honestly do not think that you should have other people vote for you. If the two of you love one another, you should bring this child into this world. I understand it is a life changing experience. As a mother, I can tell you that my child is the best thing that ever happened to me. I really think that if you do not want to keep this baby...please give it up for adoption! There are so many loving couples and people that would make excellent parents if given the chance.

  • sam - 14 years ago

    If you didn't want the kid. Why did you have sex in the first place. There are so may people trying to have kids and cannot. Grow up!!!!!!!!!

  • Achmed - 14 years ago

    It's really difficult to watch mankind slip into the abyss as the two of you have. Here is to hoping the two of you find peace with out ruining this child. Have the child give it to someone who will respect what it is. Clearly the two of you have no business pro-creating.

  • Jodi - 14 years ago

    It is very hard to believe that this is not a hoax. Please seek Christian counsel. A baby is not a decision to be made by a poll. I would love to have another baby. But it can not happen for me. Please to not do this to a child. Adoption is the answer.

  • TS - 14 years ago

    is it possible that this couple is using this website to gain fame, or notoriety at least, to get their 15 minutes? Its sick if they are, but I have a feeling that they have already made up their mind and are just putting this out there to , at the very least, stir up debate, and get people riled up.
    I might be wrong, but judging by the amount of media attention its getting, this could end up like another balloon-boy or octo-mom thing..

    BTW I don't believe abortion is right, life is life even if it is defenseless and unborn.

  • Becky - 14 years ago

    Like many other posters, I'm horrified that you created this page. You both must be total narcissists. Have the baby and place him/her with a loving, stable family.

  • Casey - 14 years ago

    Let's set up a poll & allow people to vote to abort or allow YOU to live....

    I pray that your hearts will be changed, and your precious blessing from above will be allowed to live & flourish in a good, loving, christian home.

  • ohlawd - 14 years ago

    Vote Tabby instead of Boxxy!

  • Bman - 14 years ago

    You should have the baby. Give it up for adoption. Then do us all a favor and kill yourselves.

  • john - 14 years ago

    I just say: The child will give you to know that you are really capable in this life. Just be brave!!

  • Janessa Brown - 14 years ago

    My mom was advised to abort me thank God she didn't. For one I am now her care giver. I just want you to consider adoption before you abort. I am willing to adopt the baby no matter race, sex, or medical issues and would be willing to do an open adoption in which contact could be as little or as much as you wanted or a closed adoption. A baby is a precious gift and can grow up to be anything in this country who knows you may have the child who finds a cure for a cancer in your belly right now.

  • HP - 14 years ago

    OK, to give you the benefit of the doubt that this is not just a pro-life bit of performance art: if you are really serious about asking the public at large to vote on whether you should have an abortion, then you probably shouldn't have one. Putting the decision in the hands of total strangers suggests to me that you really, really, want to avoid feeling personally morally responsible for making the decision to have an abortion. Which suggests to me that you have enough qualms about abortion that it's not for you.

  • Jim - 14 years ago

    Congratulations on your baby! I hope you have an easy delivery. The child you both share will bring you closer together, and help both of you through the trials of marriage-but it will be worth it. There will be times when both of you will love your child more than you hate each other; and that will keep you together for the sake of the child. And before you realize it, twenty years will have flown by, and you both will be so glad that you grew and became your "best selves" . And that together, you both were responsible for creating and guiding YOUR child to become their unique self. And if you're REALLY lucky, one day your adult child will give you grandchildren; that's when your BIG reward comes ! Congratulations again-you truly are Blessed !

  • Robert Flutie - 14 years ago

    Apologies, I forgot to mention that I am more than happy to adopt the child. Click on my name below it will lead you to my contact information.

  • Ihave2blessings - 14 years ago

    I am very sorry for all the absolutely horrible things that people are saying to you. As a Christian woman & mother of 2 - I hope with all my heart that the you have this child & if you are not ready to be parents - but this baby up for adoption. It is very obvious by this poll that you are seeking help. I pray that people come into your lives that can help you and be there to support you in whatever decision you do make. To those people who call themselves Christians out there and are so cruel & mean – they are the reason that most people don’t believe in God. God would sit you down on his lap & hold you when you are scared – not judge you & say horrible things to you. I hope that you take some time to sit & reflect and think how we are all God’s children and he loves each & every one of us. We weeps that you are so conflicted in this – He hopes that you will make the right decision – but He will never stop loving you- no matter what you decide to do. You are his children – he loves you unconditionally. And someday – when you are parents yourselves – you will understand this. I was 35 when I had my first child and could never know what that agape love is all about until I was a mom myself. I may not agree with the means in which you are making this decision – but it is not for me to judge. Please ignore the horrible comments & lean on the ones that are the one true voice of love – for we know that God loves you – no matter what.

  • Crystal Strickland - 14 years ago

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  • Crystal Strickland - 14 years ago

    I cant believe this site even exsist. I fought with everything I had to save my 17 week gestational baby and held him for an hour while he gasped for breath. Want to know what a baby really looks like right now? Want to see with a LIVING child born at 17 weeks gestation looks like and read my story? Go to my website

  • Claudia - 14 years ago

    Don't do it, please. Give him/her the chance. If you don't want to be parents, that's fair. But the child don't have guilt about that. Give him/her in adoption, and that's all. Now, is your responsability. But kill is not an option, I think.
    Good luck.

  • Brett - 14 years ago

    I'm in the camp of if you are stupid enough to do this poll you have no business raising a child. Please, have an abortion. If you decide to keep the child (for valid religious reasons), put it up for adoption so it will have a chance of not being a fool like you two obviously are.

  • connie - 14 years ago

    God says in the Bible we are fearfully and wonderfully made!!!!

    You will never regret having this baby, but you will greatly regret it; if you abort it.

    I had two abortions before i knew the Lord, and it took me many years to forgive myself for doing it. I always wonder what they would be, in my life and in other peoples lives.

    God loves you and God surely loves the baby in your womb!!!!

  • Nik - 14 years ago

    You must want the child unconditionally. That's what abortion is about, whether or not you are ready and want the child. By merely asking this question, you should abort. I voted to abort though I question the sincerity of your query. Secondarily, it's up to the women, men should have no say in this at all.

  • J - 14 years ago

    I think this is the most rediculous posting EVER!!! Who votes to keep a child or abort, seriously....I vote Give birth and give it up for adoption to someone dying to have a child of thier own and would never think twice about loving that child...You both are sick....You are 17 weeks along and should of thought about aborting way before this..Then again you shouldnt of even tryed to get pregnant if you didnt want to deal with the thought that something may go wrong...Theres ALWAYS a chance of things going wrong!! (spoken from a miscarriage survivor and infertility)...GIVE THIS CHILD UP FOR ADOPTION!!

  • licia - 14 years ago

    no entiendo mucho ingles y no se si uds el español pero a traves de internet pueden traducirlo.yo quede embarazada a los 18 y nunca pense en abortarlo es lo mas lindo que te puede dar la vida,es algo increible ternerlo en tus brazos apenas nace...el momento del nacimiento de tu hijo no te lo olvidás jamas! por favor no aborten...es un regalito de dios un bebe! no se van a arrepentir y un hijo esta por encima del trabajo, los estudios y los problemas personales, un hijo esta primero en la vida de una madre y una trata de darle lo mejor aunque vos estes mal...toma mi consejo!es la mejor compañia un bebe!

  • Morrison - 14 years ago

    I cannot imagine how mentally, emotionally and spiritually vacant you two must be. You do a disservice to this baby if you don't abort. Please end this pregnancy and get mental help.

  • Tawnya Hale - 14 years ago

    First I would like to say that I'm surprised that after reading the comments made by both parties that anyone that comes to this site would believe it to be accurate/honest. If you "read between the lines" or even pay attention, you will notice that during all the blogging and posts that both parties manage to insert their views into other topics and then requesting you blog you feelings on that topic. The one that comes to mind is the flu shot. The woman talks about getting it with her mom, discusses her fears of the needle (how many miscarriages has she had...enough to assume she is familiar with injections), followed by her "experience" that there were no side effects and then goes on to discuss the CDC recommendations for the Flu shot and her support in them. This is just one of many topics like this but the there is a bigger picture. They are attempting to get feedback and opinions on a variety of topics and what better way to get attention? Use a topic that will instantly get the nation's attention, congratulations! You have succeeded in this endeavor and proved how many idiots are out there. I haven't even discussed how much money they are making by each "hit" to their website. Read their "story" and blogs and posts and while you are doing so observe the inconsistencies, contradictions and subliminal messages are inserted into their writing. Kudos to you guys! Your smarter than most people gave you credit for.

  • Tawnya Hale - 14 years ago

    First I would like to say that I'm surprised that after reading the comments made by both parties that anyone that comes to this site would believe it to be accurate/honest. If you "read between the lines" or even pay attention, you will notice that during all the blogging and posts that both parties manage to insert their views into other topics and then requesting you blog you feelings on that topic. The one that comes to mind is the flu shot. The woman talks about getting it with her mom, discusses her fears of the needle (how many miscarriages has she had...enough to assume she is familiar with injections), followed by her "experience" that there were no side effects and then goes on to discuss the CDC recommendations for the Flu shot and her support in them.
    This is just one of many topics like this but the there is a bigger picture. They are attempting to get feedback and opinions on a variety of topics and what better way to get attention? Use a topic that will instantly get the nation's attention, congratulations! You have succeeded in this endeavor and proved how many idiots are out there.
    I haven't even discussed how much money they are making by each "hit" to their website. Read their "story" and blogs and posts and while you are doing so observe the inconsistencies, contradictions and subliminal messages are inserted into their writing. Kudos to you guys! Your smarter than most people gave you credit for.

  • angela - 14 years ago

    please dont abort ive been trying to get pregnat but i cant nd ur lucky that ur pregnat because theres millions of familys that want to have children but cant . please have the little angel in u.because god gave it to u so u would be happy nd u dont have the rights to take a life away

  • dakota - 14 years ago

    To the fucking Idiot who thinks they are a fucking genius by changing peoples posts.
    you are the type of scum who probably has never been in a real relationship, have no friends and pretty much everyone who knows you wish you were dead, well i tell you what maby you should just go ahead write some smart ass comment in regards to this but in the end you are the fucktard and im pretty sure that just because you hate yourself because you have a complex with your own sexual preference is the reason you find it easier by just taking it out on people around you well go ahead say what you want but in the end you are the one who has no reason to live, good luck.

  • RR - 14 years ago

    I was so sad when I read the news and I found this one! How can you guys make a poll deciding about abortion? it is really about life... about a miracle! I went through all the comments and seriously I think you should better give your child in adoption. If you were not responsible enough to avoid getting pregnant, at least you can still make a smart decision and give the baby to someone else who can provide all the care and love he/she deserves.
    This poll is cruel!

  • Robert Flutie - 14 years ago

    Based on the vote results, there is a VERY large margin of people who think that you should keep the baby and not abort. If you abort the child, you won't ever have to confront the child with an explanation as to why he/she never made it into the world. You will have gotten rid of two issues with one move.

    On the other hand, if you choose to have the baby (and assuming that you do not give it up for adoption), you will be faced with the rather interesting dilemma of whether or not you tell the child that his/her fate was decided by strangers vs. by a pair of loving parents who wanted the child to be born. This gives a whole new meaning to "you were an loving accident."

    Maybe the natural progression of this process is for you to put the baby up on EBay? Surely there has to be one person out of the hundreds of thousands that have become aware of this story that might want to buy the baby. You'll make more money this way than through the Google Ad campaigns that run on your site.

    In all fairness, we can not make a judgment on your motives for handling the pregnancy in this manner. Maybe the cable and internet is out in Apple Valley and you've missed the heart wrenching story of couples who would give anything to be in your position to be pregnant. Or maybe unbeknownst to the great residents of Apple Valley, you are missing a piece of the narrative that despite the proliferation of cable TV and the internet making it easier for people to share news and stories in a rapid and open debate, some decisions are better left to a private discussion between two mature, responsible and respectful adults.

    I'm not going to preach to you on the merits of keeping the baby, or not. Unlike the public display that has been made of your personal issue of pregnancy, the world probably won't be as excited about voting on your next website launch. I just checked GODADDY.COM and www.whatshouldwehavefordinner.com is still available.

  • Toni - 14 years ago

    First of all, it's your choice. Not anyone else's

    Second of all, the joy of looking at your kid when they're asleep is amazing. Going thru life experiences with them is so much fun. I have never experienced this type of love before. It's definitely worth it.

  • Gina - 14 years ago

    There is a lot of terrible comments on here - Having lost two babies to miscarriage you are probably in terrible pain. Often that kind of pain leads to depression and depression leads us to do things we would never think of otherwise. Don't make a life or death choice under those conditions. You are loved and so is that baby. Keep it and if after it is born if you don't feel like you can parent then give it up for adoption. If you choose life you will be eternally blessed, if you do not - the depression will quite possibly get even worse. There are stats on depression and abortion and that is not a scare tactic. Pray and be thankful of the beautiful gift you have been given. If its not meant to be your body will naturally abort, in the mean time enjoy being pregnant. Its an experience that brings you into a club only us mothers know about and its great... It is worth the months of bed rest.... It is worth your life changing.... don't let your fears control you - Be brave and be thankful and let yourself enjoy this pregnancy and this baby. You are about to be sooooo happy - let it happen.

  • Mike - 14 years ago

    All of the hateful comments are doing nothing but proving how divided we are becoming as people. This poll to some is a joke and to others is horrifying. I personally am 100% pro life but I dont hate anyone who is pro choice. As for this poll goes, keep the child and let my wife and I take him or her into our home. We just exerienced a second miscarraige and would love to be blessed with this child.

  • Marco Polo - 14 years ago

    Jump off a bridge......

  • A Mom - 14 years ago

    A life has been created through your love for each other. Do you not ALREADY love that life?!? If you're not ready to be parents, that's fine. There are PLENTY...no, THOUSANDS of people out there who would love to adopt a little strawberry haired, blue eyed baby. You will never regret allowing this child to live whether you keep it or give it up for adoption, but I guarantee you'll have regrets about killing it. Blessings as you make this VERY important decision.

  • Wallace - 14 years ago

    Alisha I was sad to read about your miscarriages. I'm sure that scares you and Pete to think it may happen again. For what ever reason your path together in life has gone the way it has there is a reason. Our prayers are for you and your baby. I am sure many thousands of people are praying for you. Good luck and may this time be the one you have wanted.

    Disregard all the foolish and hateful people that post junk. They are asking for karma to kick them in the face. And it will. May God bless you and the new baby.

  • elena - 14 years ago

    if you dont want the baby why dont you just give birth and put it up for adoption. there are millions of families across the world that cant have children and it would be the greatest gift you could give them. if you didnt know if you wanted kids or not you should have been using some method of birth control for u to abort a child that has a brain and nerves and can move on its own is just wrong.

  • Jason - 14 years ago

    This really seems like more of a thought experiment for people who support abortion but won't have to actually make the decision themselves - until now. We get to see pictures of the child in the womb, read their story & are actually able to place ourselves in their shoes.

    It certainly seems a lot more like murder when you can look a life in the eye before scraping it out.

  • Hephzibah - 14 years ago

    “Your people, the Native Americans, and the African Americans should be the greatest defenders of the unborn on the planet. After all, you know what it’s like for society to redefine you so that they can destroy your races. But ironically your races have the highest abortion rates in this country! Somebody is still trying to exterminate your people, and you don’t even realize it. The names have changed, but the plot remains the same!”
    Finally he couldn’t handle it anymore. He blurted out, “I have never heard anything like this before. I am hanging out with the wrong people. I have been deceived!”
    Exert from “Purity, The New Moral Revolution” By Kris Vallotton

  • Jennifer S. - 14 years ago

    Please don't give up on this little one out of fear from past loses. This little one is ALIVE and wants to meet you and be held by you. Even if you do loose this one (I pray not), know that you can treasure the life inside you and the times you got to see Wiggles so young. Read the book "I'll hold you in heaven" by Jack Hayford if you are still struggling with the previous loss. Every child is a precious gift from God. I believe he will provide a way for you to raise your own baby if you want. It sounds like your family is in a tough spot and if you can't emotionally or financially raise the child please allow Wiggles to have a life with another family. I pray you choose to treasure your Wiggles in LIFE while I continue to wait for mine to be conceived.

    FYI: I'm not thrilled with the idea behind your site but I do appreciate you being open to the thoughts of others. If you were truly considering an abortion I hope the votes for life lay heavy on your mind. Your pre-born infant has a greater support net already than most people meet in a lifetime!

  • ASHLEY - 14 years ago

    CREEPS.

  • rob - 14 years ago

    u sick fucks. Have the baby, then fucking cut ur wrists. Maybe at least ur baby will be adopted

  • Bruce - 14 years ago

    I was pro-choice until I saw this poll and I realized that a life was in danger.

  • Joe - 14 years ago

    I hope that if you decide to have the abortion that you die from complications during the procedure.

  • John Olenik - 14 years ago

    Another sad chapter in this world. "Since this is so perverse, and you will eventually answer to God. Why don't you create a website called "shouldweliveornot.com" so we can vote on whether you live or not, since it's the same thing. Only, your baby doesn't have a choice.

    And, since you are both clearly to immature to raise a child, please keep the baby, and put he/she up for adoption, so the child will have a chance to grow up with real parents.

    How would you like it if you found out your parents put your lives to a vote?

    What kind of sick world do we live in, where people so twisted, even give a living child a name and post a picture, only to ask "should we kill him or her?"

    And you have the audacity to try and justify your actions by saying, "for every 10 hate emails, we get 1 that blows them out of the water?". Hello, it's still 10 to 1, and you're only lying to yourselves.

    Our First Amendment wasn't fought for so ignorance like this can flourish, but it does.

    We will be praying for you, but mostly for the child."

  • Hephzibah - 14 years ago

    It was a cold November day in Atlanta. I had just finished a gruelling conference schedule and was eager to get home. I cleared security and boarded the plant, looking forward to the solace of privacy among strangers. I found my row, organised my stuff, and finally came to rest in my seat. As I strapped myself in, I smiled warmly at the small-framed, middle-aged man sitting next to me, but I offered him no greeting. He extended his hand and introduced himself. I returned the introduction and shook his hand, hoping that was the end of it. He, however, seemed hungry to connect and pressed me with questions about my occupation and destination.
    When he discovered that I was a pastor, he let me know emphatically that he was a liberal, atheist, Jewish businessman. He seemed surprised when I ignored this apparent invitation to debate with him. I just nodded my head, acknowledging his position. He went on to tell me that his company made orthopaedic shoes for people with problems with their feet but that his business had never made money. “I used to be a business consultant” I replied, hoping that this common ground would ease the stress between us. Thankfully, he was happy to talk about his business, and as we continued to interact, I started outlining a business plan to make his company more profitable. He took a legal pad out of his briefcase and began to take notes. Three hours and ten pages of notes later, my new friend had a detailed strategy for making his failing business profitable. He was so excited that he kept insisting on making some custom shoes for me just to thank me – which was quite a gift at $2,500 a pair.
    Than something crazy happened. His countenance changed, as if he suddenly remembered that he was a liberal atheist and felt bad for befriending me. He abruptly asked, “What do you think about abortion?”
    I could feel the tension growing in the plane. I dropped my head, acknowledging that we had a very different value system for our lives. Then I thought of a way to respond to his question.
    “You’re Jewish, right” I asked.
    “Yes”, he said defensively. “I told you I was!”
    “Do you know how Hitler persuaded the German people to destroy more than six million of your Jewish ancestors?” The man looked at me expectantly, so I continued. “He convinced them that Jews were not human and then exterminated your people like rats.”
    I could see that I had his attention, so I went on. “Do you understand how Americans enslaved, tortured, and killed millions of Africans? We dehumanized them so our constitution didn’t apply to them, and then we treated them worse than animals.” “How about the Native Americans?” I pressed. “Do you have any idea how we managed to hunt Indians like wild animals, rape their women, and slaughter their children? Do you have any clue how everyday people turned into cruel murderers?”
    My Jewish friend was silent, and his eyes were filling with tears as I made my point. “We made people believe that Native Americans were wild savages, not real human beings, and then we brutalized them without any conviction of wrongdoing! Now do you understand how we have persuaded mothers to kill their own babies? We took the word fetus, which is the Latin word for ‘offspring,’ and redefined it to dehumanize the unborn. We told mothers, ‘This is not really a baby you are carrying in your belly; it is a fetus, tissue that suddenly forms into a human being just seconds before it exits the womb.’ In doing so, we were able to assert that, in the issue of abortion, there is only one person’s human rights to consider, and then we convinced mothers that disposing of fetal tissue (terminating the life of their babies) was a woman’s right. Our constitution no longer protects the unborn because they are not real people. They are just lifeless blobs of tissue.”
    By now, tears were flowing down his cheeks. I looked right into his eyes and said, “Your people, the Native Americans, and the African Americ

  • Denise - 14 years ago

    Yes, your life will be changed forever as it already is with this child but the change will be worth more than any money you can make or spend on anything else. Having your child hold your finger for the first time, smile at you or cry just for you to hold him or her ...and is pricelss and definitely worth whatever change may be in store for the two of you ...now already three. I know because I became a mother for the first time at the age of forty and then after two miscarried babies (whom I miss very much), my husband and I had another baby ...at forty five...As much as I was enjoying my single life...I can't even being to tell you how it pales in comparison to being a parent to my children. You will never be alone again...and it's all worth it.

  • Sarah - 14 years ago

    Either way, you have now already destroyed that child's life. What a shame. May God bless you and forgive you.

  • Lewis Hickman Jr - 14 years ago

    Please spare this childs life and seek Jesus Christ as Saviour.

  • Alan - 14 years ago

    Abortion should be avoided at all costs. However, people like you should have an abortion because it would be child abuse for attention-mad, selfish, lying, simple-minded people like you to have a child and inflict yourselves upon its life.

  • Willow Yancy - 14 years ago

    media whores sweeping the nation. when will it end?

  • Gobsmacked - 14 years ago

    I would love to start a poll about the two of you. My options would be: OPTION 1 Sterilise with a pair house bricks. OPTION 2 Sterilise with a pair of rusty scissors.

  • Claudia - 14 years ago

    Do what you want to do and your heart or your $$ tell you but here is one person availabele for adoption if you w

  • Grace - 14 years ago

    Would you want the world to be able to vote on whether you were going to be killed or voted to stay alive and not have a voice in it?
    I hope and pray you do choose to have your baby but how is you beautiful child going to feel when you tell them you really didnt know if you wanted them and let the world decide? Not really loved. The poor child.. Everyone has potential to be great parents.. which you two already are! But right now.. you arn't respecting your child's precious life!

  • Travis - 14 years ago

    You both sound like terrible parents as you are using a stupid poll to decide a potential child's life. What is wrong with you?!

  • Deacon Dan - 14 years ago

    Before you read my comment, in the interest of full disclosure, you need to know two things. First, I am a Deacon in the Catholic Church. Second, my wife and I have no children, natural or adopted. That simply was not in God's plan for us. However, my sister has a son, and that is the story.

    My sister became pregnant after 15 years of marriage. She and her husband were overjoyed, until they visited the OB/Gyn. He pointed out to my sister that she was nearly 40, overweight and a smoker. On that basis, he recommended that she terminate the pregnancy and consider some permanent form of birth control. My sister calmly told him that she would carry out the pregnancy. Numerous other times during the pregnancy, the doctor forcefully "reminded" my sister of the possible negative results of the pregnancy (e.g. birth defects, Down's Syndrome, danger to my sister's health), until one day my sister said to the doctor, "Look! I don't care if the kid has three heads; you need to understand, I'm having this baby!"

    Part way into her sixth month, my sister went into labor. She delivered a 3 pound baby boy who, aside from low birth weight, was otherwise perfect. After the birth, several of the nurses approached my sister. They said they were astonished by the reaction of the doctor. He kept pacing the floor saying, "I can't believe it! He's perfect! I can't believe it! He's perfect!" Perhaps the doctor learned a lesson that day.

    My nephew (also my Godson) recently celebrated his 11th birthday. He is an honor student in school (only 1 "B" so far in his entire school career; all the rest are "A's"). He is a star hockey and a star soccer player in the small town where they live. Imagine what a loss it would have been if my sister had listened to the doctor's advice.

    In the end, in the eyes of the law, it is your decision, but I would suggest that there is a reason that God has given you this baby, and that you should embrace the gift. I strongly urge you to pray about, and to follow the answer you receive.

    God bless.

  • William Yarbrough - 14 years ago

    I never wanted to have a child, I thought for sure that I would never be a good father. One day years ago a former girlfriend told me that she had just returned from a clinic where our child was aborted, I felt like I had been kicked in the gut. That reaffirmend my position on not siring children. Fast forward a few years and I am married to a wonderful woman who was told she could not bear children, perfect for me I did not want any. By now you probably guessed, a little over a year in my wife breaks the news that she is pregnant. Talk about emotional roller-coaster, ultimately I am very excited. Short months later my wife is rushed to the emergency room where she and my unborn may die. This happens not once but four times during which my wife is on strict bedrest, the eggbeater in my gut is almost unbearable. My wife did end up carrying almost full term and my beautiful daughter was born twelve years ago, with my wife nearly bleeding out on the maternity ward. I would not trade my wife and daughter for anything and I would go through hell to keep them safe. Marriage and fatherhood are the most fulfilling things in the world. Raising our daughter together, teaching her GOD's Love and helping her to grow into the beautiful person she will be, awesome! I will be praying for you, that you will truly consider the person you are carrying and that you will seek GOD with all your heart.
    Oh yeah, and you can put my name on the list of potential adoptive parental units. William and Jodi Yarbrough jonathandough@comcast.net.

  • Jen - 14 years ago

    It makes me weep tears of sorrow to hear that anyone would flippantly put their child's fate in the hands of the American people. This is not an "American Idol" or "Dancing with the Stars" type of decision. THIS IS LIFE OR DEATH. Your child is not just cells without feelings...it is a living, breathing human being. He or she could be a world changer! Yet you choose to subject him or her to rejection before he or she is even born! Can you imagine coming into the world knowing that your mother or father contemplated keeping, let alone terminating, your life!? How devastated would you feel?

    It further breaks my heart to learn that you live in my home town. I'm an elementary school teacher there, and it makes me physically ill thinking that I may see an empty chair in a classroom a few years from now knowing that your child may have been sitting there, just because you chose to end his or her life. I am not privileged to have a child of my own, but I am blessed to work with them every single day. Children are priceless gifts (I believe from God), and it takes a selfless individual to raise a happy, well-rounded child. I don't think I can say that about you, but irregardless of your integrity, I urge you to carry the child to term. Whether or not you claim him or her as your own, you owe him or her the dignity of going to a home where they are wanted and loved undconditionally. I pray that God would guide your decisions, not man.

  • Erica M - 14 years ago

    You say that for the first time our voices can be heard and our vote can make a difference in the life of a child - but then in interviews, you state that you can exercise veto power irregardless of the vote. This does not make sense and saddens me. You say you believe that your child will know he is loved if you choose to give him life - yet, it would seem if you truly loved this little boy; this website would not exist. Please choose life for your son, choose love... please choose an adoption!

  • UnPCdMOM - 14 years ago

    I truly will never understand how any family devastated physically or emotionally by miscarriage would ever even consider MURDERING the newest miracle they are blessed with. MANY times a fetus is miscarried and the mother conceives again quickly. These are blessings and to even consider aborting. Usually the couple are so ecstatic they get over protective of the mom or baby. It is sickening to me that anyone would even put it to a POLL !!! If you do chose to abort, I suggest you also both besterilized also so more tough decisions that are life and death to a human child need to be gambled away like this.

    While I 100% believe abortion IS MURDER, I also feel it should NEVER be a political issue. It should be a private issue between a woman and her doctor with the feelings and cpncerns of the father considered also. It should also be paid for by THEM, not the government or some redistribution of wealth program.

  • Jill - 14 years ago

    It really is a shame that you are having a child, morons like you dont even deserve to be alive.....

  • angry mother - 14 years ago

    I just wanted to say that you people are disgusting and don't seserve the joy of being parents...I hope that baby gets a chance at a wonderful life...I am pro-life and I still think think you didnt deserve a life..you poor excuse for a human bein

  • melanie - 14 years ago

    i pray you miscarry. if this is for real, either abort or give the child up for adoption. please don't even consider torturing the baby by raising it yourselves. if you'll kill your child at the request of the internet, you do not deserve one. this is sickening.

  • irathernotsay - 14 years ago

    The fact that you even created this site to determine the faith of an unborn child is enough proof that you should be questioned by the child services whether you are even capable to care for this child. OBVIOUSLY you don't give a crap and it infuriates me that you were ballsy enough to take a risk and have unprotected sex but can't take a responsibility. All the negative comments you've received you deserve them, but Only God will really make you pay for what you are doing. I feel sorry for you and more for your unborn child you are playing with life how can you even sleep at night? If you end up having this child, it will grow up one day knowing what you did, you heartless bitch.

  • jv - 14 years ago

    I read the comment, have the baby, get rid of yourselves. I couldn't agree more. You should be ashamed of yourselves whether this is a joke or not! You are a sick individual!!!!! What the HELL is wrong you?????!!!!!

  • mama most - 14 years ago

    So, you've had three miscarriages??!! Does that mean you've been trying to get pregnant? But now suddenly, when it's successful, you don't want a child? Make up your fucking mind!!! You should definitely give birth to this child and give it up for adoption! There are soooo many women out there unable to get pregnant and would LOVE to adopt your child. THEN.... you should go get sterilized so the possibility of this situation happening again is ZERO!! You are not child worthy!

  • Hannah - 14 years ago

    I read your story on the bus this morning, and I have NEVER been so disgusted in my whole life. I don't know how they do it in America, but in civilisation, generally people have this discussion of abortion or keeping an unborn child in private. They don't make a sadistic website. I feel so sorry for you both. Think about how many people in this world ACHE for their own children with their soul-mate, and will never get the opportunity. And here you are, thinking you can play God with a life. It might not seem like a life to you, but it has fingernails and everything. I'm only 17 and I know I was destined to have children, but not until I'm married and ready.
    If you two were too selfish to think about anything other than sex you would have put a condom on at least, and prevented this DISGUSTING website and uproar in the first place.
    Think about if you have this child that you selfishly conceived, what would you tell that child when it found out about this website? Because the truth always comes out in the end and it will inevitably find out.

    This whole thing is, as I've said previously, disgusting. Put something on then end of it and DON'T have children if you let the rest of the world decide his fate.

  • sam - 14 years ago

    Let me first state that I don't understand the logic behind this poll. It's rather strange to have your personal life so publicized. However getting to the discussion, miscarriages are extremely hard to handle emotionally. There are many things in life we cannot and will never be able to explain or understand. I am pro-choice depending on the situation.
    Here is something that might help you.
    A friend's 4 year old daughter once explained the mystery of childbirth. She believes every baby is looking for it's parents. Some babies take longer to find their real parents in the dark. Some babies find their parents in the light like adoption.
    It looks like your baby has finally found you.

  • Jon - 14 years ago

    During my younger years, I participated/consented to the abortion of three of my children. I was care-free, very liberal, and had no regrets for anything. I thought I knew it all and even wrote a very convincing pro-choice paper for one of my college classes.
    I later got my head extracted from my rear and realized that I was living a life of self gratification and leaving most of my relationships in wreckage. YET, I only have one serious regret! I regret killing my 3 unborn children.
    I am now a single father of 3 girls from the same mother. I feel at peace(forgiven) for the rash choices of my youth. If I had to do it all over again, I'd like to think that I would change quite a few things, but I know I would probably travel the same path with the notible exception that I would rise to the occation of being a parent and I would never abort one of my children. It is truly my biggest(only?) regret.
    Peace, Jon

  • Rachel - 14 years ago

    Love the fan page on Facebook for Arnold: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pete-Arnold/170133659053

    You guys could teach Sarah Palin a thing or two about publicity. She's only willing to use a special-needs baby as a prop. I doubt even she would have assumed that two obvious pro-lifers (it's an easy Google trail to follow) would be willing to use a fetus as a publicity stunt.

    Isn't it amazing that only pro-life people are falling for this? You're giving your movement a bad name but hey, anything for free publicity, right? Let me know when you get that reality TV series.

  • cst - 14 years ago

    I was sorry to see that you've recently had several miscarriages. That must be a difficult experience. Do you have any other children? Well, I hope that this baby will be healthy and well. Being the mother of 4, I know that pregnancy can be anxiety producing - it must be even more difficult to endure the worries of pregnancy when you've had miscarriages. But hang in there. I hope all will go well for you this time. If the worst would happen, you'll at least have peace knowing you did what you could to give the little thing a chance.

    On the topic of being able to deal with a baby, here is a story that might help. I once had an acquaintance who had several children, including twins, and when she got pregnant - again - she was not real pleased and didn't know if she could deal with another one. But her other children said, "don't worry, when the baby come, he will bring his love with him." And he did.

    Whether it is one baby you aren't ready for, or another one of several, when the baby comes, the love will come too. And if you struggle, I think you know from the pole that there are many people who would be willing to help either through temporary foster assistance or adoption.

    Best wishes.

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